[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed agenda new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG Meeting - Thursday 25 January at 14.00 UTC

Sylvia Cadena sylvia at apnic.net
Mon Jan 29 04:26:29 UTC 2018


Thanks Marilyn for this draft. I think it reads more clearly and fluidly. I think the CoI part can also be worked out as a separate section to make the letter a bit shorter.

I think it will be ideal to have the questions organized into an online form so that input can be easily aggregated and anonymized. The CoI could be a couple of ticks on that form. That way, the it can just be an email including the forms.

Now, regarding the platform, does ICANN has access to Zoom? We use it a lot for large groups and it is working a lot better than our old Webex and Adiobe Connect too… maybe worth trying?

Regards,

Sylvia

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From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
Date: Friday, 26 January 2018 at 7:44 am
To: Erika Mann <erika at erikamann.com>, Ching Chiao <ching.chiao at gmail.com>
Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed agenda new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG Meeting - Thursday 25 January at 14.00 UTC



I hesitate to send this draft forward, but I want to use it as an example of what I learned, as I tried to streamline and edit.

I found it very difficult to explain what we wanted, without waving so many scary flags -- we will post everything you say publicly.
To anyone employed by an NGO or a foundation, that reads: please consult your legal counsel so you know what  you can share with us.

We can have Chatham House rules, perhaps? Aggregate all inputs as we do at the IGF consultations, without noting who said what, but including a list of who posted comments?

I think we are over thinking this and over doing it.  We want to listen to some informal and non binding information that informs this group.

Can we reconsider how legalistic we need to be to just "learn".

I did make extensive edits, but I just think we are headed in a direction that is too restrictive and too legalistic.  I wish I had thought of this earlier but it was when I started applying this to my own experience as an NGO Board member for a small NGO, that I started thinking about how this will be received.

M


From: Daniel Dardailler <danield at w3.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 8:33 AM
To: Vanda Scartezini
Cc: Marilyn Cade; Marika Konings; ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed agenda new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG Meeting - Thursday 25 January at 14.00 UTC

I mostly agree with Marylin. Here's my copy, sorry to be late in
replying.



On 2018-01-25 14:30, Vanda Scartezini wrote:
> I just sent my adding sentence to the letter in the first paragraph.
> For what we will use funds are not clear. ( political issues,
> religious… support things that we are against???)I just added one
> small sentence explaining
>
>  I agree with Marilyn that looks like even we asking for a favor we
> are hiding something that we do not want the person willing to help
> could know.
>
> _VANDA SCARTEZINI_
>
> _POLO CONSULTORES ASSOCIADOS_
>
> _AV. PAULISTA 1159, CJ 1004_
>
> _01311-200- SAO PAULO, SP, BRAZIL_
>
> _LAND LINE: +55 11 3266.6253_
>
> _MOBILE: + 55 11 98181.1464 _
>
> _SORRY FOR ANY TYPOS. _
>
> FROM: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on
> behalf of Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
> DATE: Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 11:22
> TO: 'Marika Konings' <marika.konings at icann.org>,
> "ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> SUBJECT: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed agenda new gTLD Auction
> Proceeds CCWG Meeting - Thursday 25 January at 14.00 UTC
>
> I will only be on the first hour of of the call today, due to a
> conflict with an event I need to be at.
>
> Apologies.
>
> However, I will just note that I worked for a major corporation for
> many years, and during that time, I engaged many experts for advice
> for ad hoc activities, NGOs, etc.. Ireviewed the letter and frankly, I
> would NEVER agree to participate in a call with such weirdly
> cautionary language.
>
> It reads like this:
>
> hmmm, you do not now who "we are". We are very special. And, oh by the
> way, don't bother to learn about us. No need!
>
> And, by the way, you should know today whether you might today, or
> ever in the future have a client interested in applying for the
> auction funds, although you do not know the mechanism we will choose,
> or the conditions, etc.
>
> And, oh by the way, we hope you will want to donate your time to give
> us information while we are not clear with you.. and we may sort of
> blackball you if you answer any question in a way that makes "us"
> uncomfortable.
>
> Surely, we can do better than this in how we explain the issue, the
> invitation, and the call for a declaration of interest.
>
> Just as someone the CCWG do not know today if in the future they might
> have a client or be part of an organization that might apply for
> funding, that may be the case for those that are interviewed.
>
> I also  note that if you want a senior executive to read a letter -
> make it one page, with attachments.
>
> I'll join as long as I can.
>
> Marilyn
>
> -------------------------
>
> FROM: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on
> behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> SENT: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 12:51 AM
> TO: ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> SUBJECT: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed agenda new gTLD Auction
> Proceeds CCWG Meeting - Thursday 25 January at 14.00 UTC
>
> Dear All,
>
> Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction
> Proceeds CCWG meeting which has been scheduled for Thursday 25 January
> at 14.00 UTC. Attached for your review you will find the proposed
> outreach letter for external experts.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marika
>
> ========================
>
> PROPOSED AGENDA – NEW GTLD AUCTION PROCEEDS CROSS-COMMUNITY WORKING
> GROUP – THURSDAY 25 JANUARY 2018 14.00 UTC
>
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>
>  5.      Confirm next meeting
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