[ChineseGP] 回复： RE: 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

Mon Apr 20 04:53:47 UTC 2015

剛發了有另外44個字的variant考查的zip file。大部份和張老師提供的一致。

這個zip file很大，有14MB。如果你收不到，我會分幾個較小的zip file送來。

Regards,
Jonathan Shea

From: Jonathan Shea
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2015 12:50 PM
To: '齐超'; ZhangJoe; 'wangwei'
Cc: Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; ChineseGP at icann.org; Bonnie Chun (bonnie.chun at hkirc.hk)
Subject: RE: 回复： RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

現附上zip file有另外44個字的variant考查。大部份和張老師提供的一致。

這個zip file很大，有14MB。如果你收不到，我會分幾個較小的zip file送來。

Regards,
Jonathan Shea

From: 齐超 [mailto:qichao at cnnic.cn]
Sent: Sunday, 19 April 2015 12:30 AM
To: ZhangJoe
Cc: Jonathan Shea; Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei'; ChineseGP at icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP at icann.org>
Subject: Re: 回复： RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

张老师,

   因为如下原因:

1. 您写的有些(?)的部分；

2. Jonathan 发过来部分文字的简繁体标注跟您的标示不一致；

3. Jonathan还有部分文字没有发过来。

  所以现在没有将这些未在CDNC字表里的文字（200个左右）合入 总的表（10000字+）。

希望一个确定的版本再合并，因为如果某个字的变体字很多的话，会对原有的cdnc的结构产生很多变化（比如某个字的变体有N个， 则需要修改1+N行）。

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收件人: "齐超" <qichao at cnnic.cn<mailto:qichao at cnnic.cn>>, "Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea at hkirc.hk<mailto:jonathan.shea at hkirc.hk>>
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主题: 回复： RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
我昨晚传给你的收到了吗？纳入总的VARIANTs TABLE了吗？

发送自我的三星设备

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日期: 2015-04-18 12:31 (GMT+08:00)
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主题： Re: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

各位,好,

      我整理了一下Jonathan发过来的文字, 在APPFORM里有申请加入的新字以及简繁体对应关系.

这部分大都在澎湖会议时被提出, 有一些已经被采纳被写进了CGP的字表里(但是像"㩜U+3A5C"并不在MSR里).

剩下有一些是当时会议被标记未决或未通过的但是包括在IICore里的, 我以黄色背景作了标记 .

其变体关系定义还请各位专家参考.

谢谢各位.

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主题: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

附上的zip file有21個字的variant考查。下星期一我會提供另外44個字的資料。

Regards,

Jonathan Shea

From: chinesegp-bounces at icann.org<mailto:chinesegp-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces at icann.org<mailto:chinesegp-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Zhang Zhoucai
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Subject: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

齐超：

对不起，上午外出。

粗略看一下，有许多是日文略字。

我手头一时找不到原有的电子档，建议你：

1.       参考Jonathan的资料（他说有的已经考察过）

2.       用程序扫描J-variant table。

把结果传给我看看。我现在出去，晚上可以再浏览校对。

张

发件人: 齐超 [mailto:qichao at cnnic.cn]
发送时间: 2015年4月17日 10:31
收件人: JOEZHANG43; Joe Zhang; yanzhiwei; wangwei
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主题: Re: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

张老师，王伟，

   根据昨天王伟发出的最终字表，查询CDNC中已有的variant定义，形成了一个MSS最小化的字表variant。

MSS中有 12334 个字在 CDNC中，剩下的197个（12534 - 12334）个还没有variant定义，如下（也可以在excel中筛选出）。

这些字不知道张老师有没有现成的variant集 ？ 如果 case by case 确认的还是很费时的。

Unicode

Hanzi

34E4

㓤

3577

㕷

35A1

㖡

35AD

㖭

35BF

㖿

35CE

㗎

35F3

㗳

35FE

㗾

3960

㥠

39F8

㧸

39FE

㧾

3A18

㨘

3A52

㩒

3A67

㩧

3B39

㬹

3DE7

㷧

3DEB

㷫

3E74

㹴

3ED0

㻐

4065

䁥

406A

䁪

40BB

䂻

40DF

䃟

4137

䄷

44EA

䓪

4606

䘆

47F4

䟴

48B5

䢵

48BC

䢼

48C5

䣅

48D3

䣓

49D1

䧑

4A12

䨒

4AB8

䪸

4C7D

䱽

4C81

䲁

4C85

䲅

4CB3

䲳

4D08

䴈

4E55

乕

4EEE

仮

4FAD

侭

51B4

冴

51E6

処

5227

刧

524F

剏

5271

剱

5368

卨

5605

嘅

5689

嚉

56A2

嚢

576E

坮

57DE

埞

5817

堗

5841

塁

58CC

壌

5BFE

対

5C02

専

5CC0

峀

5D5C

嵜

5E3F

帿

5F10

弐

6060

恠

60A9

悩

60E3

惣

61F4

懴

62A6

抦

6335

挵

633F

挿

637F

捿

63BB

掻

6442

摂

656D

敭

65FF

旿

663B

昻

663F

昿

6667

晧

66FD

曽

681E

栞

685C

桜

685F

桟

68C5

棅

6A53

橓

6AAA

檪

6C17

気

6D9C

涜

6E13

渓

6E7A

湺

6E8C

溌

6EDD

滝

701E

瀞

7114

焔

713C

焼

7155

煕

7200

爀

72A0

犠

731F

猟

732F

猯

734F

獏

7363

獣

73E1

珡

73E4

珤

7460

瑠

74A2

璢

74C8

瓈

750E

甎

7534

甴

754A

畊

7573

畳

757A

畺

758E

疎

75E9

痩

764E

癎

767A

発

76CC

盌

7807

砇

783F

砿

784F

硏

7A36

稶

7A4F

穏

7A63

穣

7AC3

竃

7AD7

竗

7ADA

竚

7B6F

筯

7B86

箆

7B92

箒

7C14

簔

7C4F

籏

7C83

粃

7D9A

続

7DDC

緜

7E4A

繊

7E4B

繋

8117

脗

8133

脳

81D3

臓

8217

舗

8262

艢

839F

莟

83B5

莵

8420

萠

84DA

蓚

8597

薗

86CD

蛍

874B

蝋

877F

蝿

88B5

袵

894D

襍

89A9

覩

8A33

訳

8AAD

読

8B0C

謌

8B72

譲

8E99

躙

8EE2

転

8F0C

輌

8F19

輙

8F27

輧

8FBA

辺

9039

逹

9197

醗

91A4

醤

91B8

醸

91C8

釈

9244

鉄

9271

鉱

932C

錬

9421

鐡

945A

鑚

9665

陥

967A

険

96B2

隲

974D

靍

9771

靱

982C

頬

984B

顋

98C7

飇

98E1

飡

98EE

飮

994D

饍

99C5

駅

9A12

騒

9A13

験

9A28

騨

9C04

鰄

9C2E

鰮

9C76

鱶

9D0E

鴎

9D2C

鴬

9D44

鵄

9D8F

鶏

9DC0

鷀

9E78

鹸

9EB9

麹

9EBA

麺

9F62

齢

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发件人： 王伟<mailto:wangwei at cnic.cn>

发送时间： 2015年4月16日(星期四) 下午11:38

收件人： KIM Kyongsok<mailto:gimgs0 at gmail.com>

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主题： Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

Dear All

After the discussion in today‘s CGP meeting, Prof. ZHANG and Mr. QI Chao has produced a Minimum Shared Set (MSS) for C, J and K.

The MSS is consisted of the following code point subset:

A: IICore Base (9810, all fall in MSR)
B: Historically Registered Hanzi under .CN/TW/HK (7000/5292/4191, all fall in MSR)
C: PRC National Normalized Hanzi along with their traditional variants (8105/3489, some out of MSR)

MSS=A+B+C-D-E

D: code points in C, but not in MSR
E: Stroke or Radicals (31) LIDU?(5)  Out of BMP(62)

finally, we got 12531 valid code points aggregate a Minimum Shared Set, based on which C, J and K could define their own variants, or adopt others variants.

After all three GPs finish the variants generation and coordinaiton on MSS,
each GP still has the chance to add independent code points (with no variants) into MSS seperately, to from its own final repertoire.

STEP1: MSS generated and accepted by three GPs, a mininum code points set shared by all of us.
STEP2: variants generated and coordinated based on MSS
STEP3: Add each GP's own independent and unrelated code points, form the final formal repertoire.

Does this process work for you? please feel free to give your comments.

Regards

WANG Wei

PS: special thanks for the hardwork of Mr. QI Chao

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主题: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

Dear everybody:

KLGP is trying to prepare a repertoire and a variant table.

I would like to get the (or almost?)  latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables.

Thanks very much in advance.

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김 경석      KIM, Kyongsok

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