[ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

齐超 qichao at cnnic.cn
Mon Apr 20 04:57:30 UTC 2015


Jonathan,

   文件已经收到。 我看之前的繁简体定义和张老师标注的还是有所区别。

稍后我合并下。 等全部的字体出来,放到一起讨论吧。

   谢谢。




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发件人: Jonathan Shea
发送时间: 2015年4月20日(星期一) 下午12:53
收件人: 齐超; ZhangJoe; 'wangwei'
抄送: Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; ChineseGP at icann.org; Bonnie Chun
主题: RE: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
剛發了有另外44個字的variant考查的zip file。大部份和張老師提供的一致。


這個zip file很大,有14MB。如果你收不到,我會分幾個較小的zip file送來。
 
 
Regards,
Jonathan Shea
 
From: Jonathan Shea 
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2015 12:50 PM
To: '齐超'; ZhangJoe; 'wangwei'
Cc: Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; ChineseGP at icann.org; Bonnie Chun (bonnie.chun at hkirc.hk)
Subject: RE: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
 
現附上zip file有另外44個字的variant考查。大部份和張老師提供的一致。
 
這個zip file很大,有14MB。如果你收不到,我會分幾個較小的zip file送來。
 
 
Regards,
Jonathan Shea
 
From: 齐超 [mailto:qichao at cnnic.cn] 
Sent: Sunday, 19 April 2015 12:30 AM
To: ZhangJoe
Cc: Jonathan Shea; Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei'; ChineseGP at icann.org
Subject: Re: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
 
张老师,

   因为如下原因:
 
1. 您写的有些(?)的部分;
 
2. Jonathan 发过来部分文字的简繁体标注跟您的标示不一致;
 
3. Jonathan还有部分文字没有发过来。
 
  所以现在没有将这些未在CDNC字表里的文字(200个左右)合入 总的表(10000字+)。
 
希望一个确定的版本再合并,因为如果某个字的变体字很多的话,会对原有的cdnc的结构产生很多变化(比如某个字的变体有N个, 则需要修改1+N行)。
 



-----原始邮件-----
发件人:ZhangJoe <joezhang43 at hotmail.com>
发送时间:2015-04-18 15:46:37 (星期六)
收件人: "齐超" <qichao at cnnic.cn>, "Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea at hkirc.hk>
抄送: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang at unihan.com.cn>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei at cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei at cnic.cn>, "ChineseGP at icann.org" <ChineseGP at icann.org>
主题: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
我昨晚传给你的收到了吗?纳入总的VARIANTs TABLE了吗?
 
 
发送自我的三星设备


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发件人: 齐超 <qichao at cnnic.cn> 
日期: 2015-04-18 12:31 (GMT+08:00) 
收件人: Jonathan Shea <jonathan.shea at hkirc.hk> 
抄送: Zhang Zhoucai <joe.zhang at unihan.com.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43 at hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei at cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei at cnic.cn>, ChineseGP at icann.org 
主题: Re: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 

各位,好,
      我整理了一下Jonathan发过来的文字, 在APPFORM里有申请加入的新字以及简繁体对应关系.  
这部分大都在澎湖会议时被提出, 有一些已经被采纳被写进了CGP的字表里(但是像"㩜U+3A5C"并不在MSR里).
剩下有一些是当时会议被标记未决或未通过的但是包括在IICore里的, 我以黄色背景作了标记 . 
其变体关系定义还请各位专家参考. 
谢谢各位.


 
-----原始邮件-----
发件人:"Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea at hkirc.hk>
发送时间:2015-04-17 18:44:35 (星期五)
收件人: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang at unihan.com.cn>, "'齐超'" <qichao at cnnic.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43 at hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei at cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei at cnic.cn>
抄送: "ChineseGP at icann.org" <ChineseGP at icann.org>
主题: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
附上的zip file有21個字的variant考查。下星期一我會提供另外44個字的資料。
 
Regards,
Jonathan Shea
 
From: chinesegp-bounces at icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Zhang Zhoucai
Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015 3:07 PM
To: '齐超'; 'JOEZHANG43'; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei'
Cc: ChineseGP at icann.org
Subject: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
 
齐超:
对不起,上午外出。
粗略看一下,有许多是日文略字。
我手头一时找不到原有的电子档,建议你:
1.       参考Jonathan的资料(他说有的已经考察过)
2.       用程序扫描J-variant table。
把结果传给我看看。我现在出去,晚上可以再浏览校对。
 
张
 
发件人: 齐超 [mailto:qichao at cnnic.cn] 
发送时间: 2015年4月17日 10:31
收件人: JOEZHANG43; Joe Zhang; yanzhiwei; wangwei
抄送: ChineseGP at icann.org
主题: Re: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
 
张老师,王伟,
 
   根据昨天王伟发出的最终字表,查询CDNC中已有的variant定义,形成了一个MSS最小化的字表variant。
 
MSS中有 12334 个字在 CDNC中,剩下的197个(12534 - 12334)个还没有variant定义,如下(也可以在excel中筛选出)。
 
这些字不知道张老师有没有现成的variant集 ? 如果 case by case 确认的还是很费时的。
 
UnicodeHanzi
34E4㓤
3577㕷
35A1㖡
35AD㖭
35BF㖿
35CE㗎
35F3㗳
35FE㗾
3960㥠
39F8㧸
39FE㧾
3A18㨘
3A52㩒
3A67㩧
3B39㬹
3DE7㷧
3DEB㷫
3E74㹴
3ED0㻐
4065䁥
406A䁪
40BB䂻
40DF䃟
4137䄷
44EA䓪
4606䘆
47F4䟴
48B5䢵
48BC䢼
48C5䣅
48D3䣓
49D1䧑
4A12䨒
4AB8䪸
4C7D䱽
4C81䲁
4C85䲅
4CB3䲳
4D08䴈
4E55乕
4EEE仮
4FAD侭
51B4冴
51E6処
5227刧
524F剏
5271剱
5368卨
5605嘅
5689嚉
56A2嚢
576E坮
57DE埞
5817堗
5841塁
58CC壌
5BFE対
5C02専
5CC0峀
5D5C嵜
5E3F帿
5F10弐
6060恠
60A9悩
60E3惣
61F4懴
62A6抦
6335挵
633F挿
637F捿
63BB掻
6442摂
656D敭
65FF旿
663B昻
663F昿
6667晧
66FD曽
681E栞
685C桜
685F桟
68C5棅
6A53橓
6AAA檪
6C17気
6D9C涜
6E13渓
6E7A湺
6E8C溌
6EDD滝
701E瀞
7114焔
713C焼
7155煕
7200爀
72A0犠
731F猟
732F猯
734F獏
7363獣
73E1珡
73E4珤
7460瑠
74A2璢
74C8瓈
750E甎
7534甴
754A畊
7573畳
757A畺
758E疎
75E9痩
764E癎
767A発
76CC盌
7807砇
783F砿
784F硏
7A36稶
7A4F穏
7A63穣
7AC3竃
7AD7竗
7ADA竚
7B6F筯
7B86箆
7B92箒
7C14簔
7C4F籏
7C83粃
7D9A続
7DDC緜
7E4A繊
7E4B繋
8117脗
8133脳
81D3臓
8217舗
8262艢
839F莟
83B5莵
8420萠
84DA蓚
8597薗
86CD蛍
874B蝋
877F蝿
88B5袵
894D襍
89A9覩
8A33訳
8AAD読
8B0C謌
8B72譲
8E99躙
8EE2転
8F0C輌
8F19輙
8F27輧
8FBA辺
9039逹
9197醗
91A4醤
91B8醸
91C8釈
9244鉄
9271鉱
932C錬
9421鐡
945A鑚
9665陥
967A険
96B2隲
974D靍
9771靱
982C頬
984B顋
98C7飇
98E1飡
98EE飮
994D饍
99C5駅
9A12騒
9A13験
9A28騨
9C04鰄
9C2E鰮
9C76鱶
9D0E鴎
9D2C鴬
9D44鵄
9D8F鶏
9DC0鷀
9E78鹸
9EB9麹
9EBA麺
9F62齢

 
 
 



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发件人: 王伟
发送时间: 2015年4月16日(星期四) 下午11:38
收件人: KIM Kyongsok
抄送: hotta at jprs.co.jp; Dongman Lee; Joe Zhang; Wang Wei; Kenny Huang; Yuri; Yoshiro YONEYA; Zhang Zhoucai; ; Zhiwei Yan; KoreanGP at icann.org; ChineseGP at icann.org; JapaneseGP at icann.org; ? ??; 조성덕; 신상현
主题: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

Dear All
After the discussion in today‘s CGP meeting, Prof. ZHANG and Mr. QI Chao has produced a Minimum Shared Set (MSS) for C, J and K.
The MSS is consisted of the following code point subset:
A: IICore Base (9810, all fall in MSR)
B: Historically Registered Hanzi under .CN/TW/HK (7000/5292/4191, all fall in MSR)
C: PRC National Normalized Hanzi along with their traditional variants (8105/3489, some out of MSR)
MSS=A+B+C-D-E
D: code points in C, but not in MSR
E: Stroke or Radicals (31) LIDU?(5)  Out of BMP(62)
finally, we got 12531 valid code points aggregate a Minimum Shared Set, based on which C, J and K could define their own variants, or adopt others variants.
After all three GPs finish the variants generation and coordinaiton on MSS, 
each GP still has the chance to add independent code points (with no variants) into MSS seperately, to from its own final repertoire.
STEP1: MSS generated and accepted by three GPs, a mininum code points set shared by all of us.
STEP2: variants generated and coordinated based on MSS
STEP3: Add each GP's own independent and unrelated code points, form the final formal repertoire.
Does this process work for you? please feel free to give your comments.
 
Regards
WANG Wei
PS: special thanks for the hardwork of Mr. QI Chao


 
-----原始邮件-----
发件人: "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0 at gmail.com>
发送时间: 2015年4月16日 星期四
收件人: "hotta at jprs.co.jp" <hotta at jprs.co.jp>
抄送: "Wang Wei" <wangwei at cnic.cn>, "Dongman Lee" <dlee at cs.kaist.ac.kr>, "Joe Zhang" <joezhang43 at hotmail.com>, "Wang Wei" <wangwei at cnnic.cn>, "Kenny Huang" <huangksh at gmail.com>, Yuri <takamatsu at jprs.co.jp>, "Yoshiro YONEYA" <yoshiro.yoneya at jprs.co.jp>, "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang at unihan.com.cn>, "<qichao at cnnic.cn>" <qichao at cnnic.cn>, "Zhiwei Yan" <yanzhiwei at cnnic.cn>, "KoreanGP at icann.org" <KoreanGP at icann.org>, "ChineseGP at icann.org" <ChineseGP at icann.org>, "JapaneseGP at icann.org" <JapaneseGP at icann.org>, "? ??" <mjkim at kisa.or.kr>, "조성덕" <isanjo at empas.com>, "신상현" <partizan21 at naver.com>, "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0 at gmail.com>
主题: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
Dear everybody:
 
KLGP is trying to prepare a repertoire and a variant table.
 
I would like to get the (or almost?)  latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables.
 
Thanks very much in advance.
 
-- 
김 경석      KIM, Kyongsok
 
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