[ChineseGP] [Integrationpanel] FW: Examples of complicated domainname

[Asmus Freytag]

Dear Yoneya-san,

I appreciate these examples and I was able to verify that they do lead 
to the same domains.

It would appear that there is a practice by some Japanese applicants to 
treat certain combinations of old and new Kanji as variants. And I think 
you have made your case that the selection of which variants to treat 
that way depends on the applicant (and presumably the meaning of the 
label) and therefore is not easily captured by a mechanical rule.

I would appreciate if the JGP could include this analysis (and examples) 
in their LGR proposal as part of the rationale for their choice of 
assigning variant types. I expect it will influence the review by the 
Integration panel.

Now, separately, there was the question raised "what about variants 
introduced by integration that are not 'semantic' variants in 
Japanese?". Are there cases of delegated labels where the variants are 
from that subset? It would appear that unlike the old vs. new Kanji 
variants they must be really rare (or non-existant), because they would 
be unrelated in Japanese. So it would be meaningless for an applicant to 
have a) registered both and b) directed them to the same domain.

A./



> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 6:57 PM
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> Subject: [ChineseGP] Examples of complicated domain name
>
> Dear IP members,
>
> For Japanese language, we have concept of variants.  But it is different from Chinese language's.  In Japanese language, variants are used simultaneously by intention of the person who uses them.
>
> Followings are examples of such usage in Japanese .JP domain names.
>
> 慶応大学.jp
> 慶應大学.jp
>
> Those are name of Keio university and registered by the university.
> 応 and 應 are considered as variants in new form Kanji and old form Kanji.
> 学 has variant 學 in that sense, but Keio university does not have
> 慶應大學.jp which is consist of both old form Kanji.
>
> Followings are another examples.
>
> 国学院大学.jp
> 國學院大學.jp
>
> Those are name of Kokugakuin university and registered by the university.
> 国 and 國 are new form Kanji and old form Kanji respectively.  Unlike Keio university, Kokugakuin university does not have 國學院大学.jp.
>
> These cases are unpredictable, and very much depends on applicant's intention.
>
> The interesting thing is, a subsidiary of Kokugakuin university has following domain name.
>
> 学校法人國學院大學栃木学園.jp
>
> Here, 学 and 學 are used simultaneously, and it doesn't have
> 学校法人国学院大学栃木学園.jp.
>
> This is reality of Japanese language.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Yoshiro YONEYA <yoshiro.yoneya at jprs.co.jp>
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