[ChineseGP] [Japanesegp] Redefinable

[Dillon, Chris]

Dear Hiro,

I¹d be happy to do that and to run with what we¹ve agreed this morning, or
something even better if we can think of it.


Regards,

Chris.
==
Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities,
UCL, Gower
St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)
ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon


On 22/06/2015 10:17, "HiroHOTTA" <hotta at jprs.co.jp> wrote:
>As the documents have been already distributed to all CJK GP
>members and IP members, I don't like to send another version
>which may result in confusion.
>
>So, could Edmon (or Chris) propose the change of the wording
>in the meeting ?
>
>Hiro
>
>
>On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:28:26 +0000
>"Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Dear Edmon,
>> 
>> Beautifully clear and I like it very much. Thank you.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Chris.
>> ==
>> Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital
>>Humanities,
>> UCL, Gower
>> St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)
>> ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
>> 
>> 
>> On 22/06/2015 09:21, "Edmon Chung" <edmon at registry.asia> wrote:
>> >Suggestion for last sentence:
>> >
>> >Label disposition assigned as a result of WLE cannot be reassigned.
>> >
>> >
>> >Edmon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: chinesegp-bounces at icann.org
>>[mailto:chinesegp-bounces at icann.org]
>> >>On
>> >> Behalf Of Dillon, Chris
>> >> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 6:45 PM
>> >> To: hotta at jprs.co.jp
>> >> Cc: ChineseGP at icann.org; KoreanGP at icann.org; JapaneseGP at icann.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [ChineseGP] [Japanesegp] Redefinable
>> >> 
>> >> Dear Hiro,
>> >> 
>> >> It1s good to see the additional sentence and 3given to2, but
>> >>3redefinable2
>> >needs
>> >> attention, as it could mean redefining the existing dispositions
>>(i.e.
>> >making them
>> >> mean something else). The quick way to solve it is to ask Asmus what
>>he
>> >meant
>> >> and perhaps add a few words.
>> >> 
>> >> Regards,
>> >> 
>> >> Chris.
>> >> ==
>> >> Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital
>> >>Humanities,
>> >UCL,
>> >> Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)
>> >> ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On 22/06/2015 07:34, "HiroHOTTA" <hotta at jprs.co.jp> wrote:
>> >> >Dear Chris and all,
>> >> >
>> >> >To be clearer, let me put 'given to' to the last sentence.
>> >> >
>> >> >(3) Disposition
>> >> >Result of whole level evaluation (WLE). Disposition is assigned to a
>> >> >label, not to a character. In general, the Root zone process only
>> >> >allows the two dispositions 'allocatable' and 'blocked' (as well as
>> >> >'invalid' for labels that are not valid at all). It is not possible
>>to
>> >> >add new dispositions other than 'allocatable', 'blocked' and
>>'invalid'.
>> >> >And dispositions given to the labels are not redefinable.
>> >> >
>> >> >Regards,
>> >> >Hiro
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:03:29 +0900
>> >> >HiroHOTTA <hotta at jprs.co.jp> wrote:
>> >> >> Thank you, Chris.
>> >> >> It helps a lot.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > It is not possible to add new dispositions other than
>> >> >> > 'allocatable', 'blocked' and 'invalid'
>> >> >> I believe this is also correct and important as well.
>> >> >> So, let us include the both in the definition statement.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'll place the definition
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (3) Disposition
>> >> >> Result of whole level evaluation (WLE). Disposition is assigned
>>to a
>> >> >> label, not to a character. In general, the Root zone process only
>> >> >> allows the two dispositions 'allocatable' and 'blocked' (as well
>>as
>> >> >> 'invalid' for labels that are not valid at all). It is not
>>possible
>> >> >> to add new dispositions other than 'allocatable', 'blocked' and
>> >> >> 'invalid'. And dispositions for the labels are not redefinable.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> in the terminology document and take it to the CJK+IP meeting
>>today.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hiro
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:52:13 +0000
>> >> >> "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >> >> > Dear Yoshiro and colleagues,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I1d like to start a discussion about improving the last
>>sentence of
>> >> >> > terminology 3 (given in full below for context), along the lines
>> >> >>mentioned
>> >> >> > yesterday:
>> >> >> > (3) Disposition
>> >> >> > Result of whole level evaluation (WLE). Disposition is assigned
>>to
>> >> >> > a label, not to a character. In general, the Root zone process
>>only
>> >> >>allows
>> >> >> > the two dispositions 3allocatable2 and 3blocked2 (as well as
>> >> >>3invalid2 for
>> >> >> > labels that are not valid at all).  And dispositions for the
>>labels
>> >> >>are
>> >> >> > not redefinable.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > There was a feeling yesterday that 3reassignable2 may be better
>> >> >> > than 3redefinable2, and 3assign2 was already used of
>>3disposition2
>> >> >> > in the second sentence in the paragraph. The meaning would then
>>be
>> >> >> > that dispositions cannot change as a result of some other
>>process.
>> >> >> > If, on the other hand, the meaning is that it is not possible to
>> >> >>create
>> >> >> > new dispositions, perhaps we could have something like:
>> >> >> > It is not possible to add new dispositions other than
>> >> >> > 3allocatable2,
>> >> >> > 3blocked2 and 3invalid2.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Chris.
>> >> >> > ==
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital
>> >> >>Humanities,
>> >> >> > UCL, Gower
>> >> >> > St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)
>> >> >> > ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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