[ChineseGP] [Japanesegp] Redefinable

HiroHOTTA hotta at jprs.co.jp
Mon Jun 22 17:53:39 UTC 2015


Thank you, Chris.

As Yoneya is the document editor until now, my plan 
is to let him go briefly through the document and 
then let you or Edmon comment on that including that 
point.

Hiro


On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:00:10 +0000
"Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> Dear Hiro,
> 
> I1d be happy to do that and to run with what we1ve agreed this morning, or
> something even better if we can think of it.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chris.
> ==
> Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities,
> UCL, Gower
> St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)
> ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
> 
> 
> On 22/06/2015 10:17, "HiroHOTTA" <hotta at jprs.co.jp> wrote:
> >As the documents have been already distributed to all CJK GP
> >members and IP members, I don't like to send another version
> >which may result in confusion.
> >
> >So, could Edmon (or Chris) propose the change of the wording
> >in the meeting ?
> >
> >Hiro
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:28:26 +0000
> >"Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> Dear Edmon,
> >> 
> >> Beautifully clear and I like it very much. Thank you.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> 
> >> Chris.
> >> ==
> >> Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital
> >>Humanities,
> >> UCL, Gower
> >> St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)
> >> ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 22/06/2015 09:21, "Edmon Chung" <edmon at registry.asia> wrote:
> >> >Suggestion for last sentence:
> >> >
> >> >Label disposition assigned as a result of WLE cannot be reassigned.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Edmon
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: chinesegp-bounces at icann.org
> >>[mailto:chinesegp-bounces at icann.org]
> >> >>On
> >> >> Behalf Of Dillon, Chris
> >> >> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 6:45 PM
> >> >> To: hotta at jprs.co.jp
> >> >> Cc: ChineseGP at icann.org; KoreanGP at icann.org; JapaneseGP at icann.org
> >> >> Subject: Re: [ChineseGP] [Japanesegp] Redefinable
> >> >> 
> >> >> Dear Hiro,
> >> >> 
> >> >> It1s good to see the additional sentence and 3given to2, but
> >> >>3redefinable2
> >> >needs
> >> >> attention, as it could mean redefining the existing dispositions
> >>(i.e.
> >> >making them
> >> >> mean something else). The quick way to solve it is to ask Asmus what
> >>he
> >> >meant
> >> >> and perhaps add a few words.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> 
> >> >> Chris.
> >> >> ==
> >> >> Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital
> >> >>Humanities,
> >> >UCL,
> >> >> Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)
> >> >> ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> On 22/06/2015 07:34, "HiroHOTTA" <hotta at jprs.co.jp> wrote:
> >> >> >Dear Chris and all,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >To be clearer, let me put 'given to' to the last sentence.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >(3) Disposition
> >> >> >Result of whole level evaluation (WLE). Disposition is assigned to a
> >> >> >label, not to a character. In general, the Root zone process only
> >> >> >allows the two dispositions 'allocatable' and 'blocked' (as well as
> >> >> >'invalid' for labels that are not valid at all). It is not possible
> >>to
> >> >> >add new dispositions other than 'allocatable', 'blocked' and
> >>'invalid'.
> >> >> >And dispositions given to the labels are not redefinable.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Regards,
> >> >> >Hiro
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:03:29 +0900
> >> >> >HiroHOTTA <hotta at jprs.co.jp> wrote:
> >> >> >> Thank you, Chris.
> >> >> >> It helps a lot.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > It is not possible to add new dispositions other than
> >> >> >> > 'allocatable', 'blocked' and 'invalid'
> >> >> >> I believe this is also correct and important as well.
> >> >> >> So, let us include the both in the definition statement.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'll place the definition
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (3) Disposition
> >> >> >> Result of whole level evaluation (WLE). Disposition is assigned
> >>to a
> >> >> >> label, not to a character. In general, the Root zone process only
> >> >> >> allows the two dispositions 'allocatable' and 'blocked' (as well
> >>as
> >> >> >> 'invalid' for labels that are not valid at all). It is not
> >>possible
> >> >> >> to add new dispositions other than 'allocatable', 'blocked' and
> >> >> >> 'invalid'. And dispositions for the labels are not redefinable.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> in the terminology document and take it to the CJK+IP meeting
> >>today.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hiro
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:52:13 +0000
> >> >> >> "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Dear Yoshiro and colleagues,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I1d like to start a discussion about improving the last
> >>sentence of
> >> >> >> > terminology 3 (given in full below for context), along the lines
> >> >> >>mentioned
> >> >> >> > yesterday:
> >> >> >> > (3) Disposition
> >> >> >> > Result of whole level evaluation (WLE). Disposition is assigned
> >>to
> >> >> >> > a label, not to a character. In general, the Root zone process
> >>only
> >> >> >>allows
> >> >> >> > the two dispositions 3allocatable2 and 3blocked2 (as well as
> >> >> >>3invalid2 for
> >> >> >> > labels that are not valid at all).  And dispositions for the
> >>labels
> >> >> >>are
> >> >> >> > not redefinable.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > There was a feeling yesterday that 3reassignable2 may be better
> >> >> >> > than 3redefinable2, and 3assign2 was already used of
> >>3disposition2
> >> >> >> > in the second sentence in the paragraph. The meaning would then
> >>be
> >> >> >> > that dispositions cannot change as a result of some other
> >>process.
> >> >> >> > If, on the other hand, the meaning is that it is not possible to
> >> >> >>create
> >> >> >> > new dispositions, perhaps we could have something like:
> >> >> >> > It is not possible to add new dispositions other than
> >> >> >> > 3allocatable2,
> >> >> >> > 3blocked2 and 3invalid2.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Chris.
> >> >> >> > ==
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital
> >> >> >>Humanities,
> >> >> >> > UCL, Gower
> >> >> >> > St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)
> >> >> >> > ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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