[council] Notes from today's GNSO Council call
Gabriela Szlak
gabrielaszlak at gmail.com
Thu Feb 27 20:51:18 UTC 2014
Mickey thank you so so much!!!
I was having a hard time in this call with noise in the line and small cuts
so this will help me a lot to get the things I´ve missed!!!
:)
Gabi
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2014-02-27 15:25 GMT-03:00 Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>:
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> i agree. thanks.
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> avri
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> On 27-Feb-14 18:38, James M. Bladel wrote:
>
>> As someone who missed the call - THANK YOU!
>>
>> J.
>>
>>
>> From: Mike O'Connor <mike at haven2.com <mailto:mike at haven2.com>>
>>
>> Date: Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 10:33
>> To: GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org
>> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>>
>> Subject: [council] Notes from today's GNSO Council call
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> as many of you know, i'm an obsessive note-taker in meetings. i thought
>> i would share my notes from the call this morning with this list and ask
>> you to let me know if you would like me to continue sending them to this
>> list as well. these are mostly for me, and my ISPCP colleagues (so pay
>> no attention to the action-items, those are mostly for me). feel free
>> to sing out if you find these annoying or unhelpful. these are NOT
>> official minutes, just personal notes of one member.
>>
>> disclaimer -- these are my notes and may contain errors of fact or
>> understanding. if something in here makes you unhappy, check with me or
>> the person before taking extreme action. :-)
>>
>> also note that item 6 and item 4 were reversed on the agenda, which is
>> why these notes are not in strictest numeric sequence.
>>
>> mikey
>>
>>
>> Council call - 27-Feb 2014
>>
>> *
>>
>> + - Item 1: Administrative matters (10 mins)
>>
>> o 1.1 Roll Call
>> o + - 1.2 Statement of interest updates
>> + Maria Farrell
>> + ~ https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Maria+Farrell+
>> SOI
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Maria+Farrell+
>> SOI>
>> o 1.3 Review/amend agenda
>> o + - 1.4. Note the status of minutes for the previous Council
>>
>> meeting per the GNSO Operating Procedures:
>> + Minutes of the GNSO Council meetings 23 January 2014 were
>>
>> posted as approved on 17 February 2014.
>>
>> + - Item 2: Opening Remarks / Review of Projects & Action List (10
>> mins)
>>
>> o Review focus areas and provide updates on specific key themes /
>> topics
>> o Include review of Projects List and Action List.
>> o + - Comments or questions arising.
>> + Action: note a diary entry to review the list prior to each
>>
>> meeting - and forward to the ISPCP list
>>
>> Item 3: Consent agenda (0 mins)
>>
>> + - Item 4: UPDATE & DISCUSSION - GNSO Engagement with the work of
>> the ICANN Strategy Panels (15 mins)
>>
>> o
>>
>> + - Here the Council will receive an update on any relevant
>> interaction with and output from the strategy panels and discuss
>> any appropriate action going forward.
>>
>> + +- Update:
>>
>> #
>>
>> +- Strat Panels are out for comment
>>
>> * ~ icann.org > En > News > Public-comment >
>> Strategy-panels-25feb14-en
>> <http://www.icann.org/en/news/
>> public-comment/strategy-panels-25feb14-en.htm>
>> * ~ icann.org > En > News > Announcements >
>> Announcement-2-25feb14-en
>> <http://www.icann.org/en/news/
>> announcements/announcement-2-25feb14-en.htm>
>>
>>
>> Fadi's recent update to AC/SO chairs -- on role panels
>> and their role in the strategy process -- concern about
>> top-down was discussed
>>
>> +- MSI panel --
>>
>> *
>>
>> +- 16 proposals (here's a link to my little matrix
>> of the proposals -- arrayed by Goal <--> Tool and
>> Participation <--> Policy)
>>
>> o ~ haven2.com > Wp-content > Uploads > 2007 > 07
>> > PDP-Overview-GAC-GNSO-v5
>> <http://www.haven2.com/wp-
>> content/uploads/2007/07/PDP-Overview-GAC-GNSO-v5.jpg>
>>
>>
>> +- Jonathan has reached out -- got off to a bit of a
>> slow start -- but meetings 2 weeks ago and yesterday
>>
>> o
>>
>> +- flag waving - we're the Council and the GNSO
>> - your work feels as though it overlaps our
>> remit - so we are very tuned to you work
>>
>> + Novak offered to do some kind of interview
>>
>> -- Jonathan was uncomfortable
>>
>> +- Yesterday's meeting
>>
>> +
>>
>> working toward a meeting with 1/2 members of
>> the staff (govLab) people in singapore
>>
>> opportunity to home in on a subset of the
>> recommendations that are more closely
>> related to the policy work of the GNSO
>>
>> +- 2 issues
>>
>> o +- "top down" concern
>> + Jonathan: best aimed at Fadi not the MSI panel
>> + +- Discussion
>> # +- Berard
>>
>> *
>>
>> +- "this is something we need to talk about"
>> reenforces the "executivification" of ICANN -- it's
>> really hard for a part time person to stay above the
>> raging water -- the community is becoming more
>> professional -- this is driving some of our
>> community members mad -- the more we can do to
>> foster discussion at the broadest level in the
>> community, the better
>>
>> o Jonathan shares concern over the raging water
>> o Jonathan emphasises distinction between MSI
>> content and MSI chartering
>> # +- Amr
>>
>> *
>>
>> +- commisioning is very top down -- there is a lot
>> of work going on -- that's where the changes would
>> have to be reviewed
>>
>> o
>>
>> doesn't feel quite as concerned as others are
>>
>> +- Jonathan - we have the opportunity to engage
>> -- maybe a written response to the panel from
>> the council
>>
>> + reaction to their work AND
>> + work that the GNSO is doing
>> # +- Stoll
>>
>> *
>>
>> +- we need to inform them to alert them to overlaps
>> AND we need to inform administration of concerns
>> directly
>>
>> o comments seem to go into a black hole
>> o be careful in the engagement
>> # +- Chiao
>>
>> *
>>
>> volunteers -- substantial proportion of cycles going
>> to IG issue
>>
>> registries -- implementation requirements,
>> additional load of IG work -- overloaded is not just
>> limited to volunteers in non-contracted parties.
>> Ry's and Rr's are struggling to keep up with
>> implementation requirements in addition to
>> policy-making and IG discussion. Very hard,
>> especially for smaller registries.
>>
>> +- ICANN is now representing all of our voices --
>> will people outside of ICANN have a chance to talk
>> with the community directly? Is ICANN trying to
>> represent us, rather than letting that conversation
>> take place directly?
>>
>> o maybe it's time for constituencies to step out
>> # +- Greimann
>>
>> *
>>
>> topics are very worthwhile -- also helpful to have
>> an outside voice -- however i think this effort
>> should have come in the ICANN way -- thus they have
>> a bit of a birth defect because of the way they were
>> launched -- we shouldn't be deferential, give
>> advice, should be seen as comparable to the GAC
>>
>> # +- Greenberg
>>
>> *
>>
>> MSI - remember they were put in place to comment on
>> the *whole* MS model, not just GNSO -- their remit
>> is broader - they were asked to suggest changes -
>> informed process -- they DID suggest changes and we
>> need to embrace/refine their suggestions without
>> appearing defensive
>>
>> + +- Followup
>> # Jonathan will follow up with Theresa about how we can
>>
>> best interact with these panels
>>
>> + - Item 5: UPDATE - PDP Working Group on Translation &
>> Transliteration of Contact Information (10 mins)
>>
>> o
>>
>> The GNSO Council recently initiated a Policy Development Process
>> (PDP) on the Translation and Transliteration of Contact
>> Information. As part of its efforts to obtain broad input from
>> the ICANN Community at an early stage of its deliberations, the
>> Working Group has requested input from the Supporting
>> Organizations (including the GNSO) and Advisory Committees on
>> several questions relating to the issues identified in the PDP
>> Final Issue Report.
>>
>> + - 5.1 - Update (Ching Chiao)
>>
>> + presented by Chris Dillon - cochair
>> + +- request for input - deadline is tomorrow
>> # https://community.icann.org/x/FTR-Ag
>>
>> + - 5.2 - Discussion
>>
>> + +- Chiao - thanks Chris, encourages comments from
>> constituencies
>> # Action: remind ISPCP of need for input
>>
>>
>> 5.3 - Next steps
>>
>> + - Item 6: UPDATE & DISCUSSION - International Internet Governance
>> Issues (20 mins)
>>
>> o
>>
>> Discussions and activity relating to international Internet
>> Governance issues are attracting a great deal of attention in
>> ICANN and related groups. This item is on the agenda to provide
>> an opportunity for discussion within the Council about how this
>> impacts the role and work of the Council and mindful of the
>> scope and remit of the Council, what action the Council should
>> or could be taking.
>>
>> + - 4.1 - Status update (Sally Costerton)
>>
>> + Jonathan: what should be focusing on at Council
>> + +- Sally:
>> # +- several streams around IG
>> * +- Background
>>
>> o
>>
>> +- Buenos Aires - became clear that profile of
>> IG was increasing - triggered by Snowden issue
>>
>> + the rest of the world had "woken up"
>> + resurfaced WCIT issues
>>
>>
>> very full IG calendar in 2014
>>
>> Fadi's view - sense that there is frustration
>> over how hard IG issues are to resolve
>>
>> ITU - march toward their meeting late in the
>> year -- debate around whether they're going to
>> change their remit
>>
>> if we don't participate others will do it for us
>>
>> * +- 1Net
>>
>> o
>>
>> discussion forum where debate is taking place in
>> great detail
>>
>> now has a steering committee
>>
>> +- web forum is up and running -- discussion is
>> migrating that direction -- much easier to
>> follow than the overwhelming traffic on the
>> email list
>>
>> + ~ https://forum.1net.org/
>> <https://forum.1net.org/>
>> * +- CCWG
>> o discuss and collect input
>> o meeting weekly
>> o goal: position by the end of March
>> o +- email archive
>> + http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/
>> ccwg-internet-governance/
>> o +- web page
>> +
>>
>> https://community.icann.org/
>> display/CPMMB/ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+the+
>> Multistakeholder+Meeting+in+Brazil+Home
>>
>> * +- Hi Level Panel (5th panel)
>> o +- 3 f2f meetings
>> + December
>> + now
>> + May
>> o there is to be a submission to the Brazil meeting
>> * +- NetMundial
>> o goal: HOW to decide, not decide
>> o submissions of principle and framework
>> o late April, just after Easter
>> o hosted by Brazilian govt
>> o 4 cochairs
>> o Hi level committee -- just met this week --
>>
>> goal: good attention/attendance by governments
>> o deadline for registration is tomorrow (28-Feb)
>> o +- registration web page
>>
>> + ~ content.netmundial.br > Interests >
>> Expression
>> <http://content.netmundial.br/
>> interests/expression>
>> o +- overall web page
>>
>> + ~ netmundial.br <http://netmundial.br/>
>> * +- Singapore
>> o NCSG event -- starts at 10am, Friday before
>>
>> meeting, 10:00 - 18:00, followed by reception
>> w/Fadi
>> o Several events during the ICANN meetings
>>
>> + - 4.2 - Discussion
>>
>> + +- Berard;
>>
>> #
>>
>> +- ccNSO: categories of participation in NetMudial
>> meetingdon't make room for ccTLD managers -- is this a
>> metaphor for the way that IG discussions aren't leaving
>> room for individual members of ICANN
>>
>> * +- tactical - ccNSO members?
>> o open registration meeting - everybody is welcome
>>
>> - first come first served attendance
>> o strongly encourage participation
>>
>>
>> +- Snowden revelations provide excellent cover for
>> political intent -- what is Fadi's public position on
>> this?
>>
>> *
>>
>> Maria Farrell: John - the Montevideo statement sets
>> out pretty clearly the concern re. pervasive
>> monitoring and Internet stewardship. Fadi signed it
>> for ICANN so I think it's fair to say he sees a
>> link. Even if some use the Snowden revelations
>> tactically, the fact remains that many have lost
>> faith in the impartiality of the USG.
>>
>> +- Costerton: get asked questions about
>> globalization of ICANN and Snowden - we don't have a
>> particular view - realization within the US govt
>> that structures may need to change
>>
>> o need to reenforce other voices at the table
>>
>>
>> +- Richard Clark transcript -- the two issues are as far
>> apart as one could find
>>
>> *
>>
>> ~ windowsitpro.com > Identity-management >
>> Richard-clarke-rsa-conference-10-observations-us-
>> intelligence-gathering
>> <http://windowsitpro.com/identity-management/richard-
>> clarke-rsa-conference-10-observations-us-intelligence-gathering>
>>
>> + +- Farrell
>>
>> #
>>
>> +- Board resolution on globalization - disquite on lack
>> of consultation, yet more CEO appointed panels, a lot of
>> CEO-led activity going on. concern about Council role
>> in this ad hoc series of actions by administration
>>
>> *
>>
>> +- Board chair saw a lot of email on this -- perhaps
>> the 1net list?
>>
>> o
>>
>> ~ Marika Konings: Please note that this is the
>> email from Steve Crocker that Sally was
>> referring to:
>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-
>> February/002194.html
>> <http://1net-mail.1net.org/
>> pipermail/discuss/2014-February/002194.html>
>>
>> Costerton; with her engagement hat on -- groups are
>> to facilitate the discussion that you have described
>> Maria -- they will be in Singapore and given a
>> public block - Council needs to know that their role
>> is to act as facilitator
>>
>> +- Avri would very much have liked to participate
>> the process of setting this up - post is coming to
>> the list
>>
>> o Action: watch for that post
>> + +- Cake:
>> # +- is there anything that the Council or SGs should do?
>> * reach out to communities and encourage them to
>> participate in Netmundial
>> * +- take a look at the BCG report
>> o ~ icann.org > En > News > Announcements >
>> Announcement-24jan14-en
>> <http://www.icann.org/en/news/
>> announcements/announcement-24jan14-en.htm>
>> + +- Chiao
>>
>> #
>>
>> congratulates Costerton on ASIAPAC engagement -- AsiaPAC
>> members would like to be more engaged with the actual
>> meetings, not just talking to people in the region,
>> bring people to the meeting table and actually contribute
>>
>> 4.3 - Next steps
>>
>> + - Item 7: UPDATE & DISCUSSION - GAC Engagement - the work of the
>> Joint GAC / GNSO Consultation Group (15 mins)
>>
>> o Here the Council will receive an update and discuss any action
>> going forward.
>> o + - 7.1 - Status update
>> + +- Amr:
>> # +- Reviewed charter --
>> * http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/
>> gac-gnso-cg/attachments/20140212/c6e3f7b6/GAC-GNSO-final-0001.pdf
>> # Two work streams - PDP early engagement and day to day
>> interaction
>> o + - 7.2 - Discussion
>> + +- Mikey
>> # Charter is done, proposals are in progress
>> o 7.3 - Next steps
>>
>>
>> + - Item 8: UPDATE & DISCUSSION - Forthcoming review of the GNSO (10
>> mins)
>>
>> o
>>
>> As part of a periodic review process that is built into the
>> ICANN model, ICANN board initiated reviews of the GNSO (and the
>> GNSO Council and related functions) are expected. In order to
>> be informed and effectively prepared for this work, we have
>> begun to engage with the body that commissions such reviews (the
>> structural improvements committee) through its chair, Ray Plazk.
>>
>> The Council will track the planning work of the SIC and, where
>> appropriate; provide relevant input to the process. We will
>> also prepare to undertake a form of self-review in a similar
>> format to that which we expect to arise out of the work of the
>> SIC. A self-review will ensure that we are not only prepared
>> for the board initiated work but also able to flag areas for
>> potential improvement in as timely as possible a manner.
>>
>> + - 8.1 - Update (Jennifer Wolfe)
>>
>> +
>>
>> there is no update since the last meeting -- still waiting
>> for an update from Ray
>>
>> Jonathan: will there be a document prior to Singapore?
>> Marika: nothing expected to be published before Singapore
>>
>> 8.2 - Discussion
>>
>> 8.3 - Next steps
>>
>> + - Item 9: UPDATE & DISCUSSION - Planning for Singapore (15 mins)
>>
>> o
>>
>> Making the most out of the face-to-face meeting time available
>> at the ICANN Meeting in Buenos Aires will take planning. GNSO
>> Council Vice Chair, David Cake will lead this and will be
>> working with the Council and staff on this effort.
>>
>> Here the Council has the opportunity to feed into plans and
>> provide input based on past experience. Included in this item
>> will be the opportunity to shape the approach to and substance
>> of the Council's proposed meetings with other groups in such as
>> the CCNSO, the GAC and the ICANN board.
>>
>> + - 9.1 - Update (David Cake & Jonathan Robinson)
>>
>> + Cake: very much Draft,
>>
>>
>> 9.2 - Discussion
>>
>> + - 9.3 - Next steps
>>
>> + Action: forward the draft schedule to the ISPCP list if it
>>
>> hasn't been already -- DONE
>>
>> + - Item 10: Any Other Business (10 mins)
>>
>> o + - Community budget requests
>> + +- requests from the Council:
>> # Council development session,
>> # face-to-face PDP meetings (potential for facilitation),
>> # GAC GNSO reverse liaison (placeholder)
>> o + - ICANN Board Seat 14 - NCPH - additional Council meeting
>>
>> Thursday, 10 April 2014 at 14:00 UTC
>> + this is a placeholder for that meeting -- Glen to follow up
>>
>> to the list -- rationale for meeting
>> o + - Note the Root Server System Advisory Committee (RSSAC)
>> presence in Singapore
>> + Action: schedule them with ISPCP on Tuesday?
>> + Action: note public session to ISPCP list
>> o + - Meeting Strategy WG has draft out for comment
>> + +- Action: forward to ISPCP list - DONE
>> # ~ icann.org > En > News > Public-comment >
>> Meetings-strategy-25feb14-en
>> <http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-
>> strategy-25feb14-en.htm>
>> + Action: comments from ISPCP? - DONE
>> o + - Amr: EWG process -- is Issue report the same as the EWG
>>
>> final report?
>> +
>>
>> Marika: important to separate the two. final report due
>> London, may be another round of public comment.
>>
>> There is already an initial report underway -- EWG will feed
>> into that Issue Report, which will proceed to PDP because
>> it's Board initiated
>>
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