[CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: CWG to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition proposal on naming related functions and the work of the ICG
Gomes, Chuck
cgomes at verisign.com
Wed Sep 24 22:47:01 UTC 2014
I agree with Allan. Unless we have some very clearly identified questions for the ICG that have not already been answered, and I am not aware of any, I don't see any reason for the meeting.
Avri - are you aware of any questions we have for the ICG that haven't already been addressed? If so, could those be asked via email?
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Allan MacGillivray
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:50 PM
To: Grace Abuhamad; Avri Doria; cwg-dt-stewardship at icann.org
Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: CWG to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition proposal on naming related functions and the work of the ICG
While I have no objections to meeting with the ICG in Los Angeles, I would not want to use the scant 90 minutes we have set aside in the busy ICANN schedule to do this. Since the CWG has yet to be formally constituted, there is little that we can actually tell them. The four ccNSO representatives will be briefing the ccNSO during our meetings on Tuesday and Wednesday, and I suspect others will be doing the same thing. I think we can all inform ourselves about where they bare as the ICG's process is already quite open and well documented. At this point, I would prefer to use the time allocated on the Monday to getting on with the job of developing a proposal. If they want to meet at another time, that would be fine by me. Later in the week might mean that we got some work done so we might have something to tell them!
Allan
-----Original Message-----
From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad
Sent: September-24-14 5:22 PM
To: Avri Doria; cwg-dt-stewardship at icann.org
Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: CWG to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition proposal on naming related functions and the work of the ICG
I went through the ICG mailing list archives, and it appears that the ICG may accept formal requests for meetings in LA:
<http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-September/001711.html>
But there still seems to be discussion about this, and it doesn't seem to be final. Also, it looks like Milton is supportive of meeting with the
CWG: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-September/001730.html>
Perhaps we should reach out to the ICG and ask for clarification?
On 9/24/14 5:03 PM, "Avri Doria" <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>thanks for this.
>
>I was told they wanted to meet with us and we had rejected the offer.
>I understand they are meeting with GAC and ALAC. Not the whole group,
>but part.
>
>I am confused.
>
>avri
>
>
>On 24-Sep-14 13:36, Grace Abuhamad wrote:
>> There is no meeting planned.
>>
>> Based on one of their last calls, my understanding is that the ICG is
>> not meeting separately with any groups in LA.
>>
>> On 9/24/14 12:33 PM, "Avri Doria" <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Are we meeting with the ICG in LA?
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24-Sep-14 10:24, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
>>>> All.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please see below.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com]
>>>> Sent: 24 September 2014 15:01 To: 'alissa at cooperw.in';
>>>> 'mbashir at mbash.net'; 'Patrik Falstrom -' Cc: Byron Holland
>>>> (byron.holland at cira.ca); 'wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de'; 'Milton
>>>> Mueller -'; 'James Bladel -'; 'Keith Drazek -'; 'Jon Nevett -';
>>>> 'mnuduma at yahoo.com'; Martin Boyle (martin.boyle at nominet.org.uk);
>>>> 'Xiaodong Lee:'; 'keith at internetnz.net.nz' Subject: CWG to develop
>>>> an IANA Stewardship Transition proposal on naming related functions
>>>> and the work of the ICG Importance: High
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Alissa, Patrik, Mohamed,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are taking this opportunity to write you, given our previous
>>>> roles as co-chairs of the of the drafting team that prepared the
>>>> charter for the Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an
>>>> IANA Stewardship Transition proposal on naming related functions.
>>>> We want to update you on the progress we have made and make one
>>>> important comment on the timelines set out in the IANA Stewardship
>>>> Transition Coordination Group Request for Proposals
>>>> (RFP) published on September 8 2014.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We in the naming community have followed the historic IANA
>>>> transition process very closely. Mindful of the challenging
>>>> timelines inherent in the process, we have moved very quickly to
>>>> come together as a naming community. At ICANN 50 in London in June
>>>> 2014, the GNSO, ccNSO, ALAC and the SSAC came together to establish
>>>> a drafting team to prepare a charter for what will become the CWG.
>>>> Through frequent meetings, we were pleased to be able to finalise a
>>>> charter for the CWG by mid-August 2014. The charter has been
>>>> approved by the GNSO, ccNSO, ALAC and SSAC, each in accordance with
>>>> its own rules and procedures, and we are now calling for volunteers
>>>> as members and observers, again according to each SO and AC's rules
>>>> and procedures. In addition, the GAC has been invited to
>>>> participate in the CWG and is actively considering the invitation.
>>>> With the establishment of the CWG, we expect to be able to provide
>>>> a proposal from the naming community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While we believe that we have made a good start, ensuring the
>>>> engagement of such a broad community in such an important and
>>>> overarching exercise is necessarily time consuming. Even though
>>>> many of the chartering SO/AC's have yet to complete their
>>>> procedures for selecting working group members, we have
>>>> nevertheless decided to move forward and schedule our first CWG
>>>> meeting right before (as well as a second meeting during) ICANN
>>>> 51 in Los Angeles. After this initial F2F meeting, we may not have
>>>> another opportunity to meet face to face until ICANN 52 in
>>>> February. We would not anticipate that the CWG itself could approve
>>>> a transition proposal without at least one such face to face
>>>> meeting and potentially a public consultation of the community.
>>>> Please also be aware that before a proposal could be formally
>>>> transmitted to the ICG, it will also be necessary for the
>>>> chartering SO/AC's to approve it through their respective
>>>> processes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, while we intend to urge that the CWG devote considerable
>>>> time and energy to developing a proposal, it will be quite
>>>> challenging, some would say impossible, to meet the January 15,
>>>> 2015 target deadline for formal proposals set out in the ICG's RFP.
>>>> We do hope that shortly upon formation of the CWG we will be able
>>>> to come back to you with a proposed timetable. It follows that the
>>>> CWG will not be in a position to review the RFP or request any
>>>> clarifications by the deadline of 24 September, but hopefully you
>>>> are willing to accommodate any questions that the CWG may have
>>>> following its formation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The CWG's charter provides for a very open process, including no
>>>> limitations on observers (regardless of affiliation) at any of our
>>>> meetings. We have no doubt that the naming community members on the
>>>> ICG will actively monitor the work of our CWG and provide the ICG
>>>> with regular updates on our progress. Should you have any questions
>>>> or require further clarification, we would be pleased hear from you
>>>> and to respond accordingly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan Robinson & Byron Holland
>>>>
>>>> Co-Chairs
>>>>
>>>> Drafting Team of the Charter for a CWG to develop an IANA
>>>> stewardship transition proposal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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