[CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: CWG to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition proposal on naming related functions and the work of the ICG

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Thu Sep 25 02:36:20 UTC 2014


Hi,

Ok.

I am not even part of the group yet, though I expect to be.

But if people don't think they are ready to talk them, so be it.

avri



On 24-Sep-14 17:50, Allan MacGillivray wrote:
> While I have no objections to meeting with the ICG in Los Angeles, I
> would not want to use the scant 90 minutes we have set aside in the
> busy ICANN schedule to do this.  Since the CWG has yet to be formally
> constituted, there is little that we can actually tell them.  The
> four ccNSO representatives will be briefing the ccNSO during our
> meetings on Tuesday and Wednesday, and I suspect others will be doing
> the same thing.  I think we can all inform ourselves about where they
> bare as the ICG's process is already quite open and well documented.
> At this point,  I would prefer to use the time allocated on the
> Monday to getting on with the job of developing a proposal.  If they
> want to meet at another time, that would be fine by me.  Later in the
> week might mean that we got some work done so we might have something
> to tell them!
> 
> Allan
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace
> Abuhamad Sent: September-24-14 5:22 PM To: Avri Doria;
> cwg-dt-stewardship at icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW:
> CWG to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition proposal on naming
> related functions and the work of the ICG
> 
> I went through the ICG mailing list archives, and it appears that the
> ICG may accept formal requests for meetings in LA: 
> <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-September/001711.html>
>
>  But there still seems to be discussion about this, and it doesn't
> seem to be final. Also, it looks like Milton is supportive of meeting
> with the CWG:
> <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-September/001730.html>
>
>  Perhaps we should reach out to the ICG and ask for clarification?
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/24/14 5:03 PM, "Avri Doria" <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> thanks for this.
>> 
>> I was told they wanted to meet with us and we had rejected the
>> offer. I understand they are meeting with GAC and ALAC.  Not the
>> whole group, but part.
>> 
>> I am confused.
>> 
>> avri
>> 
>> 
>> On 24-Sep-14 13:36, Grace Abuhamad wrote:
>>> There is no meeting planned.
>>> 
>>> Based on one of their last calls, my understanding is that the
>>> ICG is not meeting separately with any groups in LA.
>>> 
>>> On 9/24/14 12:33 PM, "Avri Doria" <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Are we meeting with the ICG in LA?
>>>> 
>>>> avri
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 24-Sep-14 10:24, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
>>>>> All.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please see below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Jonathan Robinson
>>>>> [mailto:jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com] Sent: 24 September
>>>>> 2014 15:01 To: 'alissa at cooperw.in'; 'mbashir at mbash.net';
>>>>> 'Patrik Falstrom -' Cc: Byron Holland 
>>>>> (byron.holland at cira.ca); 'wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de';
>>>>> 'Milton Mueller -'; 'James Bladel -'; 'Keith Drazek -'; 'Jon
>>>>> Nevett -'; 'mnuduma at yahoo.com'; Martin Boyle
>>>>> (martin.boyle at nominet.org.uk); 'Xiaodong Lee:';
>>>>> 'keith at internetnz.net.nz' Subject: CWG to develop an IANA
>>>>> Stewardship Transition proposal on naming related functions 
>>>>> and the work of the ICG Importance: High
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Alissa, Patrik, Mohamed,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are taking this opportunity to write you, given our
>>>>> previous roles as co-chairs of the of the drafting team that
>>>>> prepared the charter for the Cross Community Working Group
>>>>> (CWG) to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition proposal on
>>>>> naming related functions. We want to update you on the
>>>>> progress we have made and make one important comment on the
>>>>> timelines set out in the IANA Stewardship Transition
>>>>> Coordination Group Request for Proposals (RFP) published on
>>>>> September 8 2014.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We in the naming community have followed the historic IANA 
>>>>> transition process very closely. Mindful of the challenging 
>>>>> timelines inherent in the process, we have moved very quickly
>>>>> to come together as a naming community. At ICANN 50 in London
>>>>> in June 2014, the GNSO, ccNSO, ALAC and the SSAC came
>>>>> together to establish a drafting team to prepare a charter
>>>>> for what will become the CWG. Through frequent meetings, we
>>>>> were pleased to be able to finalise a charter for the CWG by
>>>>> mid-August 2014. The charter has been approved by the GNSO,
>>>>> ccNSO, ALAC and SSAC, each in accordance with its own rules
>>>>> and procedures, and we are now calling for volunteers as
>>>>> members and observers, again according to each SO and AC's
>>>>> rules and procedures. In addition, the GAC has been invited
>>>>> to participate in the CWG and is actively considering the
>>>>> invitation. With the establishment of the CWG, we expect to
>>>>> be able to provide a proposal from the naming community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> While we believe that we have made a good start, ensuring the
>>>>>  engagement of such a broad community in such an important
>>>>> and overarching exercise is necessarily time consuming.  Even
>>>>> though many of the chartering SO/AC's have yet to complete
>>>>> their procedures for selecting working group members, we have
>>>>>  nevertheless decided to move forward and schedule our first
>>>>> CWG meeting right before (as well as a second meeting during)
>>>>> ICANN 51 in Los Angeles. After this initial F2F meeting, we
>>>>> may not have another opportunity to meet face to face until
>>>>> ICANN 52 in February. We would not anticipate that the CWG
>>>>> itself could approve a transition proposal without at least
>>>>> one such face to face meeting and potentially a public
>>>>> consultation of the community. Please also be aware  that
>>>>> before a proposal could be formally transmitted to the ICG,
>>>>> it will also be necessary for the chartering SO/AC's to
>>>>> approve it through their respective processes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Therefore, while we intend to urge that the CWG devote
>>>>> considerable time and energy to developing a proposal, it
>>>>> will be quite challenging, some would say impossible, to meet
>>>>> the January 15, 2015 target deadline for formal proposals set
>>>>> out in the ICG's RFP. We do hope that shortly upon formation
>>>>> of the CWG we will be able to come back to you with a
>>>>> proposed timetable. It follows that the CWG will not be in a
>>>>> position to review the RFP or request any clarifications by
>>>>> the deadline of 24 September, but hopefully you are willing
>>>>> to accommodate any questions that the CWG may have following
>>>>> its formation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The CWG's charter provides for a very open process, including
>>>>> no limitations on observers (regardless of affiliation) at
>>>>> any of our meetings. We have no doubt that the naming
>>>>> community members on the ICG will actively monitor the work
>>>>> of our CWG and provide the ICG with regular updates on our
>>>>> progress. Should you have any questions or require further
>>>>> clarification, we would be pleased hear from you and to
>>>>> respond accordingly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jonathan Robinson & Byron Holland
>>>>> 
>>>>> Co-Chairs
>>>>> 
>>>>> Drafting Team of the Charter for a CWG to develop an IANA 
>>>>> stewardship transition proposal
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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