[CWG-RFP3] Is there is a more suitable legal jurisdiction for an IANA subsidiary?

Seun Ojedeji seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
Tue Nov 4 05:59:39 UTC 2014


I am not Paul but I saw this:

 separate/independent/fire-walled

Whatever that means seem to be inline with your line of thought. So if i
may rephrase to say....it's important to keep IANA within ICANN
but separate/independent/fire-walled(and will add...Movable ;) ).

Cheers!
sent from Google nexus 4
kindly excuse brevity and typos.
On 4 Nov 2014 06:49, "Milton L Mueller" <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

>  If we agree that it must be movable it’s fine. It’s when Paul Kane says
> it’s important to keep it within ICANN that I get concerned.
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> *From:* Burr, Becky [mailto:Becky.Burr at neustar.biz]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 3, 2014 4:26 PM
> *To:* Seun Ojedeji; Milton L Mueller
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> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-RFP3] Is there is a more suitable legal jurisdiction
> for an IANA subsidiary?
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> Maybe we are talking past each other Milton.  I agree that the bundle of
> IANA “functions” must be a stand-alone/segregated from other ICANN
> activities in order to be moveable -  but that doesn’t require a separate
> legal entity does it?
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> J. Beckwith Burr
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> *From: *Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Monday, November 3, 2014 at 4:01 PM
> *To: *Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
> *Cc: *RFP3 <cwg-rfp3 at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [CWG-RFP3] Is there is a more suitable legal jurisdiction
> for an IANA subsidiary?
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> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailto-3Amueller-40syr.edu&d=AAMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=kNNtm5xxQvyRBwQA96RBE_d1K8EO_NzPqPTBlfK_hgY&s=ERNwZr9ae2WdJsHy-cSqGxHFr1Oq4QLw-s5q4quUTpI&e=>>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > It would be appropriate to emphasise the importance of keeping IANA as a
> > separate/independent/fire-walled service unit within ICANN.
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> I don't consider this acceptable, nor do many others. If you can't move
> the names IANA to another entity, there is no accountability of the most
> basic type.
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> Isn't it possible to keep it within ICANN and still be able to move it
> when the need arises? I would assume that was what
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> On the jurisdiction issue, I am flexible, but let's make it clear: when
> you say you don't want a separable IANA, you are saying yo don't want real
> accountability. If IANA is locked into ICANN's structure and there is no
> NTIA, we are moving backwards.
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> It really depends and i will suggest that we look at the merits of all
> these options in totality. We shouldn't just get locked in on just one
> route. I for one thinks ICANN as IANA operator can be accountable without
> necessarily taking IANA completely out of ICANN. Nevertheless, irrespective
> of what i think, we should look at all the options in an holistic manner.
> A document has been shared on the summary of discussions so far and i
> think its a good starting point for this group.
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> Cheers!
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