[CWG-RFP3] Is there is a more suitable legal jurisdiction for anIANA subsidiary?

Wed Nov 5 17:17:09 UTC 2014

Dear Becky,

I can vaguely remember from memory that a study of ICANN jurisdiction
has already been done. I cannot remember whether this was asked by the
ICANN Board or Staff and whether its results are public, but I know that
one exists. Globalisation of ICANN through finding it a new home is not
a new topic... :-)
Kindest regards,

Olivier

On 05/11/2014 16:00, Burr, Becky wrote:
> Team -
>
> Jurisdiction issues are very complex.  I believe that it would be
> extremely helpful for us (as well as for many other work streams) to
> develop a shared  perspective on the basic rules and issues.  Although
> there are many lawyers participating, we would probably get the most
> benefit from an independent/neutral provider.  If this is of interest,
> I would be happy to work with the co-chairs and other interested folks
> to put materials and a webinar together.
>
> J. Beckwith Burr
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> From: <Burr>, Becky Burr <becky.burr at neustar.biz
> <mailto:becky.burr at neustar.biz>>
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 at 9:24 AM
> To: Dwi Elfrida Martina <dwi.elfrida at gmail.com
> <mailto:dwi.elfrida at gmail.com>>
> Cc: RFP3 <cwg-rfp3 at icann.org <mailto:cwg-rfp3 at icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [CWG-RFP3] Is there is a more suitable legal jurisdiction
> for anIANA subsidiary?
>
> Several independent review panels have held that ICANN is subject to
> international law. 
>
>
>
> Becky Burr
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 5, 2014, at 03:50, Dwi Elfrida Martina <dwi.elfrida at gmail.com
> <mailto:dwi.elfrida at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> my name is Dwi Elfrida, I am from Indonesia. in respond to optioned 2
>> from Robert, and thanks to bring the jurisdiction issue up, in my
>> opinion to tie up IANA legal status to ICANN's legal status might a
>> faster way to reach IANA's legislation. But, it wouldn't be solution
>> for many parties who questioned IANA's independency from the US
>> government authority, as I know, for some parties the good news (main
>> spirit)  of  transition of IANA stewardship is to internationalized
>> IANA, means to dismiss the image of single authority of the US
>> government over IANA. Meanwhile, some parties are still debated the
>> ICANN's legislation that cannot be counted as International law, as
>> all cases of TLD (mostly gTLD) will be processed in the US by using
>> the US law. Therefore, the government of France (at ICANN meeting in
>> London) was still calling the issue of making ICANN as International
>> organization legalized by International law. And this idea seems like
>> supported by some governments in Europe, and other part of this
>> world. Indeed, placing IANA's functions and office from the US to
>> other part of this world, is not the solution as well, because it is
>> not the matter or territory, but the matter of legislation system,
>> which law that suitable enough to validate IANA? do we agree to use
>> the US legislation system like has been used by the ICANN, or do we
>> agree to use International law, then how will we make it happen? Our
>> choice on IANA's legislation system will determine the law
>> enforcement of IANA's policies in the future.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dwi
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
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>>     All:
>>
>>     Here is Robert's second question (which I think also applies to
>>     the concept of a fully independent IANA): 
>>
>>     *For  option #2.
>>
>>     - Is there is a  jurisdiction that ICANN has (or can obtain)
>>     legal status might be more suitable to use to create IANA as a
>>     subsidiary. Such an option might allow for the link to be a
>>     subsidiary of ICANN, but sever the legal link to the US. A
>>     negative, of course, would be moving the function and existing
>>     staff to a new part of the world.*
>>
>>     Comments and discussion?
>>
>>     Greg
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