[gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Re: Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group Thursday 30 October 2014 / some further comments/questions, etc

Thu Oct 30 13:20:08 UTC 2014


> Dear All,
> Just a last minute summary of
> 
> Some further comments/questions/inputs/suggestions:
> 
> (collected from the IP point of view)
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> Note thatICANN issued an advisory last month clarifying technical aspects of provisions of the 2013 RAA and new gTLD Registry Agreement regarding uniform requirements for presenting Whois data.<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registry-agreement-spec4-raa-rdds-2014-09-12-en>.Significantly , it states that “Registries and Registrars are encouraged to only use US-ASCII encoding and character repertoire for WHOIS port 43 output.” The purpose is to facilitate parsing of Whois data by automated tools such as ICANN’s centralized Whois data portal,<http://whois.icann.org/>. Similar arguments would apply to facilitating machine translation.
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> Thus the status quo is (or will be, by February 2015) that contracted parties are at least “encouraged” to transliterate into ASCII if Whois data is submitted in some other script.
> Has anyone heard any howls of outrage from registries and registrars over this?
> The advisory also states”All domain name labels in the values of any of the fields described in section 1.4.2 of the 2013 RAA, and sections 1.5, 1.6, and 1.7 of Specification 4 of the Registry Agreement (e.g., Domain Name, Name Server, email) MUST be shown in ASCII-compatible form (A-Label).
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> For example, a name server with an IDN label should be shown as:
> Name Server: ns1.xn--caf-dma.example.”
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> The referenced fields include virtually all the registrant data we are concerned with. See the listing in section 1.4.2 of Specification 3 of the 2013 RAA,<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en>.
> I’m not certain whether this ASCII requirement applies only to the labels (e.g., “Name Server”) or to the content following the label --- the example given suggests the latter—which further solidifies the idea that contracted parties are already required to transliterate Whois data into ASCII. But I could be misreading this requirement.
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> §§§
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> · "I think it would be useful to suggest the requirement that all Whois text be machine-readable text. I’m not sure if that’s already a recommendation of the EWG report, but as one can imagine, the Whois systems that substitute graphics for the e-mail (which, for all we know, could spread to other fields) would stymie attempts at automated translation by users of Whois.
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> · Does anyone have any ideas for avoiding flight by bad actors to the least translatable languages? One idea would be to require:
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> ·Whois info to be in either the language of the registrar or registrant (i.e. can’t pick some random language just to make it hard to translate),and
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> ·translation or transliteration is required if it’s not in a) Latin characters, b) one of the six U.N. languages, or c) possibly some larger but reasonable set of well-known and widely translatable languages (say, 20 or so)."
> -- 
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> 16 oktober 2014, Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org> skrev:
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