[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs

Mary Wong mary.wong at icann.org
Mon Jul 21 15:17:04 UTC 2014 

Hello Paul and everyone,

In initiating the current PDP and this Working Group, the GNSO Council was
careful not to presume either that the existing dispute resolution processes
should be changed, or that a new procedure would be created. For your
reference, the specific language used by the Council in its resolution was
as follows:

"The GNSO Council hereby initiates a PDP to evaluate: (i) whether the UDRP
and/or URS should be amended (to enable their access and use by IGOs and
INGOs whose identifiers had been recommended for protection by the IGO-INGO
PDP WG) and if so, in what way; or (ii) whether a separate narrowly-tailored
procedure modeled on these curative rights protection measures to apply only
to protected IGO and INGO identifiers should be developed.²

The Charter as approved by the GNSO Council following its initiation of the
PDP was also similarly neutral:
http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/igo-ingo-crp-access-charter-24jun14-en.pdf.
The Charter also explicitly lists certain preliminary activities and
research that ought to be conducted by the WG in order to assist with its
evaluation of whether changes or a new procedure is needed.

On the general question of the relationship between this WG¹s work and the
issue of IGO-INGO protections as a whole, both the Council and the Board¹s
New gTLD Program Committee (NGPC) have been careful also to ³carve out² the
question of second level dispute resolution (to be dealt with by this WG)
from their ongoing discussions relating to the remaining GNSO consensus
recommendations that are yet to be adopted by the Board (i.e. duration and
nature of protections for certain Red Cross organizational names and
identifiers, and for IGO acronyms). See, for example, the NGPC letter to the
GNSO Council of 16 June 2014 that specifically notes the role of this WG:
http://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/chalaby-to-robinson-16jun14-en.pdf
and the affirmation of this point by Jonathan Robinson, GNSO Chair, in his
letter to the GAC Chair of 25 June 2014:
http://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/robinson-to-dryden-25jun14-en.pdf.

The GNSO Council¹s intention therefore seems to be for this current WG to
begin and carry on its work in accordance with the approved Charter, as
would be the case with all other GNSO Working Groups. While there may be
other ³moving parts² that relate to other aspects of the original PDP
recommendations, the Council has indicated that these will be managed by the
Council separately from the policy question that has been referred to this
WG for the current PDP.

I hope the above clarifies the situation. Staff will, of course, prepare all
the necessary background documentation and provide an initial informational
briefing to all WG members once the group commences its work, so that
everyone is up to date on both the task that has been referred to this WG as
well as the status of any potentially related updates on other
recommendations being considered by the GNSO Council.

As mentioned previously, this WG , like all other GNSO WGs, also has a
Council liaison (Petter Rindforth). During the course of this PDP, should
the WG have any further questions about (for example) possible implications
of developments elsewhere on its work, Petter will be the primary interface
between the Council and the group on these and other such questions.

Again, I hope this helps!

Cheers
Mary

Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4892
Email: mary.wong at icann.org


From:  Paul Keating <paul at law.es>
Date:  Monday, July 21, 2014 at 10:45 AM
To:  Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com>, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
Cc:  "gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO
Access to Curative RPMs

> Aso thia WG assumes the recommendation will be adopted and we are dealing with
> UDRP conflict related issues only?
> 
> Where is the WG issue relative to the IGO issue as a whole.  Working from a
> presumption not only begs the question but will be used to sustain the
> original presumption (that NGOs should bne protected).
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Paul Raynor Keating, Esq.
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> From: Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com>
> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 4:15 PM
> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO
> Access to Curative RPMs
> 
>> Thanks for the clarification.
>> 
>> I may get back with further questions.
>> 
>> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
>> Virtualaw LLC
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>> Suite 1050
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>> Twitter: @VLawDC
>> 
>> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:10 AM, "Mary Wong" <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Phil and all,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the opportunity to clarify the various "live" issues are
>>> surrounding protections for IGOs (international governmental organizations)
>>> and INGOs (international non-governmental organizations). The short answer
>>> to Phil¹s question is, thankfully, no ­ the Working Group that the proposed
>>> GNSO Council resolution makes reference to is not this WG but, rather, the
>>> original PDP WG that between October 2012 and November 2013 produced
>>> consensus recommendations on a number of possible top and second level
>>> protections for IGOs and INGOs.
>>> 
>>> One noteworthy point for this new WG that you¹ve volunteered for is that (as
>>> some of you know) the basis for our work actually stems from one of the
>>> consensus recommendations of that original PDP WG. This is the question of
>>> dispute resolution, at the second level, for IGOs and INGOs ­ viz.  should
>>> the existing UDRP and/or URS be amended to more fully accommodate the
>>> particular circumstances and needs of these types of organizations, or
>>> should a separate, specific procedure be developed for their use (if at
>>> all)? The original PDP WG had reached consensus that this question should be
>>> explored further, first through an Issue Report and then, if voted for by
>>> the GNSO Council, through a separate PDP. Our WG is a direct result
>>> therefore of the GNSO Council¹s accepting that original recommendation,
>>> calling for an Issue Report (published in March 2014) and then voting (in
>>> June 2014) to initiate this PDP and create this current WG.
>>> 
>>> Returning to Phil¹s question, basically the GNSO Council¹s discussion this
>>> Thursday will not involve the policy question that has been posed to this
>>> WG. The Council¹s discussion will focus on other issues stemming from the
>>> original PDP recommendations instead. As such, if the Council decides to
>>> reconvene the original PDP WG (as called for in the draft resolution), there
>>> may be a slight impact on our WG in terms of timing of our initial meetings
>>> but not necessarily in terms of substance.
>>> 
>>> I hope this helps!
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary Wong
>>> Senior Policy Director
>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4892
>>> Email: mary.wong at icann.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com>
>>> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM
>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>, "gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org"
>>> <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO
>>> Access to Curative RPMs
>>> 
>>>> Mary:
>>>>  
>>>> I will provide my SOI shortly.
>>>>  
>>>> However, in just reviewing the draft resolution to be voted upon by the
>>>> GNSO Council this week
>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+24+July+201
>>>> 4 , I note this portion:
>>>>  
>>>> 3.The GNSO Council requests that the IGO-INGO PDP WG provide the Council
>>>> with its recommendation in relation to the proposed amendment/modification
>>>> within forty-five (45) days of the reconvening of the WG;
>>>> 4. The GNSO Council requests that, within seven (7) calendar days of this
>>>> resolution, ICANN staff publish the proposed amendment/modification for
>>>> public comment for a period of not less than thirty (30) days; and
>>>>  
>>>> Is my reading correct that the lifespan of this WG, as proposed in the
>>>> draft resolution, is to be a scant 6.5 weeks, and that ICANN staff would
>>>> propose amendments of the policy for IGOs/INGOs next week, before the WG
>>>> has done any substantive work? There is no possible way the WG could
>>>> consider all of the complex issues (pointed out in the staff report on this
>>>> matter) in a month-and-a-half, and what is the point of it if staff are to
>>>> draft amendments/modifications before the WG has proposed anything?
>>>>  
>>>> Very best,
>>>> Philip
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
>>>> Virtualaw LLC
>>>> 1155 F Street, NW
>>>> Suite 1050
>>>> Washington, DC 20004
>>>> 202-559-8597/Direct
>>>> 202-559-8750/Fax
>>>> 202-255-6172/cell
>>>>  
>>>> Twitter: @VlawDC
>>>>  
>>>> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org
>>>> [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:22 AM
>>>> To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO
>>>> Access to Curative RPMs
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Dear George,
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you so much for starting the ball rolling, and a warm welcome to you
>>>> and everyone who has signed up so far to this Working Group!
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> ICANN staff will be working with Petter Rindforth ­ GNSO Councilor who has
>>>> agreed to serve as the GNSO Council liaison to this Working Group and who
>>>> will be the interim chair until the group selects its permanent chair(s) ­
>>>> to set up an initial meeting for the group soon. The GNSO Council is
>>>> meeting later this week to discuss a request from the ICANN Board¹s New
>>>> gTLD Program Committee in respect of the outstanding (i.e. not yet adopted
>>>> by the Board) recommendations of the original PDP Working Group for overall
>>>> top and second level protections for international organizations. We will
>>>> consult with Petter as to appropriate timing for the first meeting of this
>>>> group following the GNSO Council discussion, and revert to you all soon.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> In the meantime, do remember to fill and send in your SOIs and please feel
>>>> free to introduce yourselves via email to this list as George has kindly
>>>> done.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks and cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Wong
>>>> 
>>>> Senior Policy Director
>>>> 
>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
>>>> 
>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4892
>>>> 
>>>> Email: mary.wong at icann.org
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>>>> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2014 at 6:34 AM
>>>> To: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
>>>> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO
>>>> Access to Curative RPMs
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> It has been nearly a week since this mailing list for the PDP on IGO/INGO
>>>>> Access to Curative RPMs has been created, and no one has posted. So, I
>>>>> thought I'd get the ball rolling with a "roll call."
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you're a member of this mailing list, you'd have received instructions
>>>>> regarding creating a Statement of Interest (SOI) page. Once you've done
>>>>> that, feel free to reply to this email thread, with a link to your SOI,
>>>>> and that can serve as a "roll call" and introduction to everyone else
>>>>> that's participating.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My own SOI is at:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/George+Kirikos+SOI
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> 
>>>>> George Kirikos
>>>>> 416-588-0269
>>>>> http://www.leap.com/
>>>> 
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