[gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] For your review: draft policy + implementation timing

Thu Jul 30 12:58:47 UTC 2015

Hi Mike, 

That's one way to look at it, after the session last Tuesday here at the office I was actually amazed there where not more questions i was not able to answer. And some folks here never seen the draft before, so there was a fresh set of eyes looking at it. 

I would call it a win. 

Theo 

Van: "Mike O'Connor" <mike at haven2.com> 
Aan: "James Bladel" <jbladel at godaddy.com> 
Cc: "Theo Geurts" <theo.geurts at firstfind.nl>, "Caitlin Tubergen" <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>, gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org 
Verzonden: Donderdag 30 juli 2015 14:36:03 
Onderwerp: Re: [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] For your review: draft policy + implementation timing 

i would like to gently point out that our first IRT meeting was held on February 3rd **2014** i note that we're going to start the IRT for IRTP-D today. 

i recall no such agreement, and at 19 months and counting i'm growing weary of tweaking this 3 page draft. a cynical blogger could make the point that registrars seem to be pretty effective at dragging their feet. 

enough. 

m 

On Jul 30, 2015, at 6:56 AM, James M. Bladel < jbladel at godaddy.com > wrote: 

I thought we agreed that changes w.r.t. Privacy services would not be considered a “material change” by the Registrar. Has this changed? 

Sorry I’m so far behind… 

J. 

From: < owner-gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org > on behalf of Theo Geurts < theo.geurts at firstfind.nl > 
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 2:02 
To: Mike O'Connor < mike at haven2.com > 
Cc: Caitlin Tubergen < caitlin.tubergen at icann.org >, " gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org " < gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org > 
Subject: Re: [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] FW: For your review: draft policy + implementation timing 

It's looking pretty good, 

However i got a question. 

What does a Registrar do when a registrant cancels his privacy service or the privacy service is automatically terminated ? 
Do I simply start displaying the underlying information (foot note 1) ? Though the foot note states that I require confirmation from the prior registrant. 

I feel it should be added to 2.3 that in such a case the change of registrant does not apply or atleast some clarification on how to deal with his. 
Another thought was to add an extra section in our terms and conditions and start playing with the "designated agent" part, however that feels rather messy, but is an option. 

Or we agree that when a privacy service is cancelled a change or registrant does apply, though that would open up a new can of worms. 

Thank you. 

Theo 

Van: "Mike O'Connor" < mike at haven2.com > 
Aan: "Caitlin Tubergen" < caitlin.tubergen at icann.org > 
Cc: "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" < michele at blacknight.com >, gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org 
Verzonden: Woensdag 29 juli 2015 23:17:16 
Onderwerp: Re: [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] FW: For your review: draft policy + implementation timing 

looks fine from here. 

thanks! 

m 

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On Jul 29, 2015, at 3:33 PM, Caitlin Tubergen < caitlin.tubergen at icann.org > wrote: 
Thanks, Michele. 

The RrSG has been given until Tuesday, 4 August, to provide feedback regarding implementation timing. 

As a reminder — if anyone from the Implementation Review Team has any feedback on the latest version of the draft, please provide it by tomorrow, Thursday, 30 July . 

Many thanks, 

Caitlin 

From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight < michele at blacknight.com > 
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 11:58 AM 
To: Caitlin Tubergen < caitlin.tubergen at icann.org > 
Cc: " gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org " < gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org > 
Subject: Re: [gnso-impl-irtpc-rt] FW: For your review: draft policy + implementation timing 

Caitlin 

Having discussed this within the RrSG we need more time to provide feedback to you 

Regards 

Michele 

Mr Michele Neylon 
Blacknight Hosting & Domains 
http://www.blacknight.host/ 
http://www.mneylon.social 
Sent from mobile so typos and brevity are normal 

On 23 Jul 2015, at 19:34, Caitlin Tubergen < caitlin.tubergen at icann.org > wrote: 

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Hi, Team. 

This is reminder to provide any final feedback on the attached draft by Thursday, 30 July . If I do not receive any feedback on the draft, I will consider the text final. 

Also, I asked the members on the call about timing for coming into compliance once the policy is announced. The default policy cycle is six months ( https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdd-policy-change-calendar-13may15-en.pdf ), but the members on the call today asked for registrars’ input on if six months is enough time. We may, for example, choose to deviate from the standard six-month cycle. 

As there are no calls scheduled at this time, please provide any feedback you have over the email list. 

Thank you! 

Kind regards, 

Caitlin 

From: Caitlin Tubergen < caitlin.tubergen at icann.org > 
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 5:21 PM 
To: " gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org " < gnso-impl-irtpc-rt at icann.org > 
Subject: For your review: draft policy + implementation timing 

Hi, Team. 

For those of you unable to make it to today’s call, please find a recording here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p4maun572zp/ . 

I have attached the latest draft of the policy, which has a small change as a result of today’s call. There are also a few numbering changes. 

There are a few things that we are awaiting feedback on. Specifically, please take a look at: 

(1) the definition of “Designated Agent” in paragraph 1(c). 

(2) the circumstances described in paragraph 2.3, specifically 2.3(iv). (The IRT wanted to confirm that this gave registrars enough flexibility to update Whois information in the event of potential abuse). 

Also, I asked the members on the call about timing for coming into compliance once the policy is announced. The default policy cycle is six months ( https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdd-policy-change-calendar-13may15-en.pdf ), but the members on the call today asked for registrars input on if six months is enough time. We may, for example, choose to deviate from the standard six month cycle. 

If you have any further comments on the attached draft or on the policy cycle timing, please provide feedback by Thursday, 30 July , two weeks from today’s date. 

Thank you! 

Kind regards, 

Caitlin Tubergen 
Registrar Relations and Contracts Manager 
ICANN 

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