[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT review] Draft Thick Whois Transition Policy for .COM, .NET, and .JOBS

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Mon Sep 5 13:04:51 UTC 2016


If call an unusable proposal a relaxation...

Best,

Volker


Am 03.09.2016 um 22:24 schrieb Metalitz, Steven:
>
> To clarify:  The Whois conflicts procedure remains unchanged. It is 
> the proposed change to the procedure (relaxation of the trigger 
> requirement) that remains in limbo.
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> *From:*gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces at icann.org 
> [mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *theo 
> geurts
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 03, 2016 3:15 PM
> *To:* Dennis Chang
> *Cc:* gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] [for iRT review] Draft Thick 
> Whois Transition Policy for .COM, .NET, and .JOBS
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
> Yes, agreed on the implementation project, we are almost there anyways.
>
> You are correct that there is no change in the procedure at this very
> moment. But this can change.
>
> My read is, the WHOIS IAG is in limbo due to the withdrawal. But it can
> be rewritten/reintroduced at the GNSO next meeting, or thereafter.
>
> Regardless what they are going to do, I guess we need some clarity here
> and the IRT should signal them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Theo
>
>
> On 2-9-2016 23:11, Dennis Chang wrote:
> > Hi Theo,
> >
> > Thanks for your attention to this CP. Much appreciated of course.
> >
> > My understanding is that the GNSO Council considered a possible 
> modification to the existing procedure as recommended by the IAG,
> > but this decision has been deferred. Therefore, no change to the 
> procedure that is currently in place.
> >
> > In another word, we continue with our implementation project. Agreed?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dennis Chang
> >
> >
> > On 9/2/16, 1:13 PM, "theo geurts" <gtheo at xs4all.nl 
> <mailto:gtheo at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dennis,
> >
> > It just dawned on me that this thing was rather familiar for two
> > reasons. I was an observer on that group and it was discussed yesterday
> > at the GNSO council meeting.
> >
> > https://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-council-01sep16-en.pdf
> >
> > The motion is currently withdrawn. Where does that leave us draft wise?
> >
> > Side note for those who are interested. The trigger mentioned in the
> > WHOIS IAG was already tried by the Dutch Registry SIDN (backend operator
> > for .Amsterdam) in 2015. The Dutch Privacy Data Regulator simply replied
> > back :"You know the law, stick to it, we are not going to issue a
> > statement". And that was the end of that. Yes, fun people for sure, they
> > just don't how to party.
> >
> > Anyhow, all fun talk aside, the WHOIS IAG report is not an option for
> > now since it is in limbo at the GNSO, how do we proceed?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Theo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2-9-2016 20:00, theo geurts wrote:
> > > Thank you Dennis,
> > >
> > > I'll give it a read as soon I have the time.
> > >
> > > Theo
> > >
> > > On 2-9-2016 15:47, Dennis Chang wrote:
> > >> Hello Theo,
> > >>
> > >> ICANN Procedure For Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law
> > >> mentioned in the implementation note can be found here:
> > >> 
> https://whois.icann.org/en/icann-procedure-handling-whois-conflicts-privacy-law
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Dennis Chang
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 9/2/16, 2:19 AM, "gtheo" <gtheo at xs4all.nl 
> <mailto:gtheo at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Dennis,
> > >> One question after a quick read, what procedure is that on the
> > >> implementation notes on the last page? Do you have a link?
> > >> For the rest I think we got it covered and should be able
> > >> to wrap it up
> > >> rather quickly.
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Theo
> > >> Dennis Chang schreef op 2016-09-02 02:05 AM:
> > >> > Dear Thick Whois Policy Implementation Review Team,
> > >> >
> > >> > Attached for your review is our initial draft of the Thick Whois
> > >> > Transition Policy for .COM, .NET and .JOBS. The draft Policy
> > >> includes
> > >> > the various elements discussed in our recent meeting on this
> > >> topic.
> > >> >
> > >> > As you review the draft, you will find bracketed text in four
> > >> > sections: sections 2.9, 2.10, 3.4 and 3.5. These sections are
> > >> > bracketed because they reference the Registry Registration Data
> > >> > Directory Services Consistent Labeling and Display Policy and the
> > >> > Registration Data Access Protocol gTLD Profile. As you may be
> > >> aware, a
> > >> > Request for Reconsideration (RfR) was submitted by the Registries
> > >> > Stakeholder Group in August regarding the Registry
> > >> Registration Data
> > >> > Directory Services Consistent Labeling and Display Policy [1]
> > >> that was
> > >> > published on 26 July 2016. The RfR objects to the inclusion of
> > >> RDAP in
> > >> > the Consensus Policy. While the RfR goes through its own
> > >> process, we
> > >> > thought it was important to continue progressing the
> > >> implementation
> > >> > project with the goal of opening Public Comment in September and
> > >> > announcing the Transition Policy by 1 February 2017 per our
> > >> schedule.
> > >> > Therefore, the text is bracketed as it may need to be revisited
> > >> > pending the resolution of the RfR and we wanted to directly
> > >> call the
> > >> > IRT’s attention to it.
> > >> >
> > >> > We will review all contents of the document at our next IRT
> > >> meeting as
> > >> > a team but please provide your comments in advance via email if
> > >> > possible.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thank you for your support!
> > >> >
> > >> > —
> > >> >
> > >> > Kind Regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > Dennis S. Chang
> > >> >
> > >> > GDD Services & Engagement Program Director
> > >> >
> > >> > +1 213 293 7889
> > >> >
> > >> > Skype: dennisSchang
> > >> >
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