[gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Draft Note to GNSO Council Chair re SCI Charter

Ron Andruff randruff at rnapartners.com
Mon Jul 8 18:46:34 UTC 2013

Dear Mikey and all, 


SCI membership is made up of all supporting organizations/constituencies
with one primary and one secondary rep.  So membership is inclusive of all
ICANN bodies.  What is more important, in my view, is for the members to be
more diligent to ensure that at least the primary or secondary rep is on
every call.


Kind regards,




Ron Andruff

RNA Partners

 <http://www.rnapartners.com> www.rnapartners.com 


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[mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 15:51
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Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Draft Note to GNSO Council
Chair re SCI Charter


there's at least one important difference between the SCI and the SIC.  the
SIC is a sub-committee *of the Board* (so only Board members are eligible to
serve) where we are not a sub-committee of the Council and membership
eligibility is broader.    


that is one of the things that confuses me about the "broad" definition of
our charter (ongoing, addressing all manner of issues, similar to SIC).  it
seems to me that if that is the direction our charter is going, then we
might want to review (and make more rigorous) our membership criteria as





On Jul 5, 2013, at 12:55 PM, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
<mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de> > wrote:

I'm fully agreeing that this discussion is needed. We might also compare the
SCI status with the SIC (on board level)
Best regards



From: Mike O'Connor <mailto:mike at haven2.com>  

Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 2:34 PM

To: WUKnoben <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>  

Cc: Julie Hedlund <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>  ;
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Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Draft Note to GNSO Council
Chair re SCI Charter



On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:16 PM, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
<mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de> > wrote:

I don't think resubmitting a motion is outside the scope of the present
charter because submission and handling of motions used to be part of the
improvements process (council operating rules).


i think there's an underlying question of intent.  it's true that almost
everything the GNSO does was touched by those committees that sprang out of
the Board review.  but that's the equivalent of saying that everything is
touched by the Constitution of a country.  i think this goes back to the
framers of our charter.  what did they intend and why?


a broad interpretation of the charter is:


- the SCI has a broad mandate to review the operation of the GNSO

- it lives forever (it is an ongoing function)


a narrow interpretation is:


- the SCI reviews issues arising *directly* from the work of the prior
committees, and is the last committee in that series

- it ends, after completing those reviews (it is a project)


i think a lot of things get easier once that basic clarification is made.
decisions about the skills of the group, tasks it takes on, expected
deliverables, etc. all get a lot clearer.  perhaps we could frame the
question the the Council this way?




In addition the two bullet points - at least from my point of view - do not
limit the SCI existence because of the periodic iteration.


Nevertheless the general question should be discussed. I wonder whether we
could achieve in Durban a general "go ahead thinking of a broader SCI scope"
by the council and after a while coming back to the council with concrete
suggestions. I doubt that we can expect more guidance.


See my comments below

Best regards



From: Julie Hedlund <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>  

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 5:15 PM

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Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Draft Note to GNSO Council
Chair re SCI Charter


Dear SCI members,


As discussed in our meeting yesterday, below for your review is a draft
message alerting Jonathan that the SCI would like to discuss the issues
concerning the SCI Charter with the Council during the working session in


Please send any comments by Friday, 05 July.


Best regards,




Julie Hedlund, Policy Director


----------------------------- Draft Message to Jonathan


Dear Jonathan,


As you know, the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation (SCI)
will provide an update on its work to the GNSO Council in Durban on 13 July.
One of issues the SCI is considering is an update of its Charter, as we have
reported previously.  This began as an effort to update the Charter to
include procedures to elect the SCI Chair and Vice Chair, but recently the
SCI also has considered whether other updates are necessary.  After
discussing possible updates the SCI members realized that they need guidance
from the GNSO Council as to whether the SCI's work should be limited to a
review of the procedures developed in the GNSO Implementations process, or
whether the GNSO Council intends for the SCI to address other procedural
issues not related to the improvements process. WUK: One such example might
be the re-submission of a motion, which is an issue the Council asked the
SCI to address and for which the SCI currently is considering revised


The current Charter states:

"The GNSO Standing Committee on Improvement Implementation (SCI) will be
responsible for reviewing and assessing the effective functioning of
recommendations provided by the Operational Steering Committee (OSC), Policy
Process Steering Committee (PPSC) and Policy Development Process Work Team
(PDP-WT) and approved by the GNSO Council:

*	On request for those recommendations that have been identified to
present immediate problems 
*	On a periodic timescale for all recommendations in order to identify
possible issues and/or improvements (subject to a clear definition by the
SCI on which recommendations should be reviewed)"


The SCI seeks guidance from the Council on what is its intent with respect
to the duration of the SCI work. WUK: Should the SCI cease to exist when it
has completed the second bullet above from the Charter? Or Should the SCI
continue indefinitely to consider procedural questions as raised WUK: the by
the GNSO Council or a group Chartered by the Council? 


It seems that these fundamental questions need to be addressed before the
SCI can consider revisions to the Charter.  The SCI members look forward to
discussing these questions with the Council in Durban.


Best regards,




Ron Andruff, Chair, SCI


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