[gnso-secs] [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat from SCI call 02 June 2016
Mary Wong
mary.wong at icann.org
Tue Jun 7 14:20:12 UTC 2016
Thanks Rudi, and thanks everyone for noting the problem. We will continue to make it a point to remind all community members periodically about the need to check their email/software platforms and to be sure to download the calendar attachment if their system does not permit them to accept the direct calendar invitation. You may know that our ever-efficient Secretariat maintains a list of reminders and notes (e.g. about mailing list etiquette) that they send out now and again, so this will be on that list too.
Cheers
Mary
From: <owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org> on behalf of Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 04:34
To: Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>
Cc: "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman at lrrc.com>, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>, Sara Bockey <sbockey at godaddy.com>, Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org>, Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org>, Michelle DeSmyter <michelle.desmyter at icann.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>, "gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [gnso-secs] [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat from SCI call 02 June 2016
Daar all,
The issue of attaching calendar invites depends on the platform used by the invitees. As we all recognize the failure of the “standards” of the internet each proprietary software (especially the big names) it becomes really difficult to be able to send out one single invitation mail for everyone. Microsoft decided to use a specific format by default which is attaching the mail and attachments in a file named win.dat, which can not be opened standard by any non Microsoft mail agent.
Thus I feel with ICANN staff here the pain of getting things organized so everybody is happy and gets what is needed. First, if all software developers would follow the standards the world would certainly become much easier.
Kind regards,
Rudi
Op 7 jun. 2016, om 09:01 heeft Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org<mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>> het volgende geschreven:
Dear Anne,
Outlook appointments are, and have been for two years now, sent as both. First as direct appointments, and immediately afterwards, as ics attachments, as some members’ calendars did not accept our direct appointments. The direct appointments however, still do need to be accepted by the recipient, before appearing on the recipient’s calendar.
We have asked tech-support for work arounds and they have tried many solutions. The mailing server we use, mailman, is the best suited for most calendars, but not all.
Here is the reply from tech support:
"Nathalie-
Sending from the Outlook Policy Calendar is not the issue here. The issue arises from using mailman lists to perform calendaring tasks.
Different email systems (think Gmail vs. Yahoo vs. Exchange) handle the attached calendar items sent via mailman differently. This is a particularly a problem with updates to already placed calendar items. Most email systems will manage it just fine, but some important ones don't: specifically gmail.”
The way forward here I believe is to always download the ics attachment, which takes seconds, to hyour calendar, to ensure the invitation is o there. As a reminder, the direct appointment and the ics attachment are always sent as a first invitation to the meeting, NOT with the reminder. They are also always sent from the same mailing list; ntfy-gnso-improvement-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:ntfy-gnso-improvement-impl-sc at icann.org>so a quick inbox search should be quicker.
Please let us know if this helps,
Kind regards
Nathalie
From: "owner-gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-secs at icann.org>" <owner-gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-secs at icann.org>> on behalf of "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman at lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman at lrrc.com>>
Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 11:39 PM
To: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org<mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>>, Sara Bockey <sbockey at godaddy.com<mailto:sbockey at godaddy.com>>
Cc: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org<mailto:terri.agnew at icann.org>>, Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org<mailto:lschulman at inta.org>>, Michelle DeSmyter <michelle.desmyter at icann.org<mailto:michelle.desmyter at icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>, "gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>
Subject: [gnso-secs] RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat from SCI call 02 June 2016
TO STAFF – I am still wondering why the Outlook appointments are not sent as direct Outlook appointments rather than attachments. I do not think I have been getting any direct Outlook appointment requests from SCI. I wonder whether this manner of proceeding would take care of the problem that has been reported by many members to have caused them to miss meetings.
Anne
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From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 6:47 AM
To: Sara Bockey
Cc: Terri Agnew; Lori Schulman; Michelle DeSmyter; gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>; gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat from SCI call 02 June 2016
Hi,
Same here. Not having a calendar invite, I had checked the GNSO Calendar to confirm that the SCI call was scheduled on June 2nd — just to be sure.
I did however, receive an email notification from Terri on June 2nd for the June 16th call.
Thanks.
Amr
On Jun 2, 2016, at 10:53 PM, Sara Bockey <sbockey at godaddy.com<mailto:sbockey at godaddy.com>> wrote:
I’ve checked all files and I didn’t receive either of the emails.
Sara
From: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org<mailto:terri.agnew at icann.org>>
Date: Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 1:49 PM
To: Sara Bockey <sbockey at godaddy.com<mailto:sbockey at godaddy.com>>, Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org<mailto:lschulman at inta.org>>, Michelle DeSmyter <michelle.desmyter at icann.org<mailto:michelle.desmyter at icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>
Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat from SCI call 02 June 2016
I see Michelle sent out both the calendar invite and email invite for the next call taking place on 16 June at 18:00 UTC.
Do you see the emails? One would have been from Michelle, the other from the policy calendar.
Make sure to check your spam folders.
Let me know.
Thank you,
Terri
From: owner-gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-secs at icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-secs at icann.org] On Behalf Of Sara Bockey
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:41 PM
To: Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org<mailto:lschulman at inta.org>>; Michelle DeSmyter <michelle.desmyter at icann.org<mailto:michelle.desmyter at icann.org>>; gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>; Sara Bockey <sbockey at godaddy.com<mailto:sbockey at godaddy.com>>
Subject: [gnso-secs] Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat from SCI call 02 June 2016
I’ve had a similar issue. While I didn’t receive a calendar invite I had entered today’s meeting manually to my calendar during our last meeting 2 wks ago. Yesterday I added the AdobeConnect link (the entry was still there), but this morning it was gone. This is the second time this has happened but it’s only been with SCI for me. So strange!
Sara
From: <owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>> on behalf of Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org<mailto:lschulman at inta.org>>
Date: Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 1:22 PM
To: Michelle DeSmyter <michelle.desmyter at icann.org<mailto:michelle.desmyter at icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat from SCI call 02 June 2016
My apologies for today’s meeting. Once again, the call was dropped from my calendar. This seems to be an ongoing issue with ICANN invites not just for SCI but for other groups as well. I will work with my IT department to see if the problem is on our end.
Lori S. Schulman
Senior Director, Internet Policy
International Trademark Association (INTA)
+1-202-704-0408, Skype: lsschulman
From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org]On Behalf Of Michelle DeSmyter
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:47 PM
To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat from SCI call 02 June 2016
Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 02 June 2016: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-02jun16-en.mp3
<http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-02jun16-en.mp3>
On page:http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#june<x-msg://1/:http:/gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#june>
(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
Attendees:
Anne Aikman-Scalese – IPC – Primary – Vice Chair
Rudi Vansnick – NPOC –Primary –Chair
Sara Bockey – RrSG – Primary
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben – ISPCP – Primary
Angie Graves – BC – Primary
Renata Aquino-Ribeiro – NCUC - Alternate
Apologies:
Amr Elsadr – NCUC – Primary
Lawrence Olawale-Roberts – BC - Alternate
ICANN Staff:
Mary Wong
Julie Hedlund
Glen de Saint Gery
Michelle DeSmyter
** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Michelle DeSmyter
Adobe Chat Transcript 02 June 2016
Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation call on Thursday, 02 June 2016 at 18:00 UTC.
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Hi all
Sara Bockey:hello
Rudi Vansnick:welcome Wolf-Ulrich, Sara
Rudi Vansnick:waiting for the other members
Rudi Vansnick:we have apologies from Amr
Rudi Vansnick:welcome Angie, Anne
Angie Graves:Thank you. Dialing in now
Angie Graves:My apologies for my delay
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:now I understand the point...
Anne Aikman-Scalese:I don't have a strong opinion either way - just would like to know what our draft language actually means in this regard.
Anne Aikman-Scalese:We should add after "on an interim basis" the following (i.e. during the 14 days)
Sara Bockey:I agree with Anne on #4...I think we should be explicit in what is meant and currently some could view this as a grey area
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:+1
Mary Wong:Shall we just insert "within the allotted time period" in 4, after "interim basis"? ie remove from 2 & 3 as noted, but iinsert in 4 for clarity?
Anne Aikman-Scalese:@ Mary - that would certainly also work for me - for clarity
Rudi Vansnick:good proposal Mary ... let's get agreement on this ...
Anne Aikman-Scalese:FYI that was my original proposal - put in 4 the language you are taking out of the last sentence of 3.
Mary Wong:@Anne, so it was!
Anne Aikman-Scalese:I think we can still send out for consensus call with changes in language made today.
Mary Wong:Two weeks from today will be 16 June, so Amr can provide a written update to the Council at that time, before people start traveling to Helsinki.
Anne Aikman-Scalese:@Mary - sounds good!
Anne Aikman-Scalese:When does GNSO meet in Helsinki? is there a weekend meeting before or no such meeting? (Not as to SCI - just a question.)
Julie Hedlund:@Anne: The GNSO Council meeting is on Thursday, and a short meeting on Monday for preparation, and no weekend session.
Anne Aikman-Scalese:Thank you Julie. I have Accountability on Sunday so was just checking.
Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome Renata!
renata aquino ribeiro:apologies for joining so late. connection issue.
Julie Hedlund:Thanks so much everyone!
renata aquino ribeiro:Planning for Hyderabad?
Julie Hedlund:Drinks sound good :-)
Anne Aikman-Scalese:Thanks everyone. Goodbye - hope we can all have a drink together in Helsinki!
renata aquino ribeiro:ok thanks
Sara Bockey:Thank you all!
Mary Wong:Thanks all!
Anne Aikman-Scalese:Thank you Rudi.
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Rudi, Anne and all. See you in Helsinki
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