[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt2] [Ext] Re: GDD Response to Vertical Integration Data Request

[Michael Flemming]

Hi Steve,

Thank you for working to get this data. In support of what Rubens has
mentioned, I believe that our follow up questions to ICANN will seek a
further breakdown of these 275.

Kind regards,

Michael Flemming

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at nic.br> wrote:

> Steve,
>
> I believe they mixed legal entities and registry families in the response.
> The initial number does look like legal entities, but since we know that
> Donuts become vertically-integrated with the acquisition of Rightside, that
> would have put many more legal entities in the list, because Donuts use one
> legal entity per TLD, while other portfolio registries operate with a
> single legal entity.
>
> I wouldn't count on the precision of the response considering the numbers
> they gave.
>
>
> Rubens
>
>
>
>
> On 21 Dec 2017, at 20:41, Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org> wrote:
>
> Rubens,
>
> My understanding is that the 275 represents notifications received by
> ICANN. For example, if Company ABC123 has signed 3 Registry Agreements with
> ICANN and sent 3 notices under each of its RAs, regarding its new
> Affiliate, that would count as 3 of the 275 notifications.
>
> Best,
> Steve
>
> *From: *Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at nic.br>
> *Date: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 1:36 PM
> *To: *Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"gnso-newgtld-wg-wt2 at icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt2 at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt2] GDD Response to Vertical
> Integration Data Request
>
>
>
>
> Em 21 de dez de 2017, à(s) 17:27:000, Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org>
> escreveu:
>
> Dear WT2 Members,
>
> WT2, during its meeting on 18 May 2017, requested statistics on how many
> registry operators are vertically integrated. While apologizing for the
> lateness of delivery, below, please find the response below from GDD:
>
> ICANN collects data about contracted parties’ vertical integration (also
> known as cross-ownership or Affiliate relationships) during the application
> process for both registrars and registry operators. Additionally,
> contracted parties are required to notify ICANN of its Affiliate
> relationships occurring after contracting, under both the registrar and
> registry operator agreements with ICANN. To date, ICANN has tracked
> notifications received from approximately 275 vertically integrated
> contracted parties. Sixteen of these notifications were received after
> contracting (4 in 2014, 10 in 2015, and 2 in 2017). However, contracted
> parties are not required to notify ICANN of the termination of such
> relationships. Therefore, the total number of vertically integrated
> contracted parties may vary from those notifications previously tracked.
>
> If you have any questions about this information, please let policy
> support staff know.
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
> I believe it would be interesting to know whether this refers to 275 TLDs,
> 275 registry legal entities or 275 registry families... some registry
> groups have more than one legal entity, some have a single legal entity...
>
>
> Rubens
>
>
>
>
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