[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt3] Recording, AC Chat & Attendance from New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team Track 3 String Contention, Objections & Disputes on Tuesday, 21 February 2017 at 20:00 UTC
Terri Agnew
terri.agnew at icann.org
Tue Feb 21 21:21:49 UTC 2017
Dear All,
Please find the attendance and audio recording of the call attached to this
email and the Adobe Connect recording (visual and audio) and AC Chat below
for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 3 – String
Contention, Objections & Disputes held on Tuesday, 21 February 2017 at 20:00
UTC.
Adobe Connect recording:
<https://participate.icann.org/p5iuw0k0z3j/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=d2bb332eb83bd37e
112e25e7751c52e54fb922234e519726f89516ceebbbd6db>
https://participate.icann.org/p5iuw0k0z3j/
The recordings of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:
<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar>
http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar
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Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri
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Adobe Connect chat transcript for 21 February 2017
Terri Agnew:Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team –
Track 3 – String Contention, Objections & Disputes on Tuesday, 21 February
2017 at 20:00 UTC.
Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page:
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Terri Agnew:everyone can scroll themselves
Rubens Kuhl:Me
Gg Levine (NABP):Yes
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes
Rudy Mendoza:+1
Rubens Kuhl:Full reading in the WG is my opinion.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and I am ok with full read in Mondays call
Rubens Kuhl:In the plenary session.
Terri Agnew:finding echo
Rubens Kuhl:There is a general feeeling among applicants about SWORD not
being useful or representative.
Karen Day:did we lose steve?
Rubens Kuhl:I'm hearing Steve...
Jeff Neuman:i hear you through adobe
Kevin Kreuser:hear you fine
Karen Day:sorry must have been me I'll try to come back in
Terri Agnew:@Steve, I am able to hear you as well. Karen please let me
know if a dial out is needed
Karen Day:I"m back sorry for the interruption.
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):and online shopping in Japanese
Jeff Neuman:I would like to go back to string similarity review after
review of these slides
Rubens Kuhl:The cases with no responses could be the applicants agreeing
to being placed in the contention set. .KID and .KIDS were like this, where
all 3 applicants agreed so they preferred to not pay to respond and accept
all as a single contention set.
Jeff Neuman:Here is the standard for string similarity review: Standard
for String Confusion – String confusion exists where a string so nearly
resembles another visually that it is likely to deceive or cause confusion.
For the likelihood of confusion to exist, it must be probable, not merely
possible that confusion will arise in the mind of the average, reasonable
Internet user. Mere association, in the sense that the string brings another
string to mind, is insufficient to find a likelihood of confusion.
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):+1 to Rubens
Jeff Neuman:Karen?
Karen Day:still haveing issues. sorry. Jeff go ahead
Terri Agnew:@Karen, let me know if a dial out would be helpful. I see your
mic is active and unmuted
Terri Agnew:Karen is now on a telephone connection
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):I was part of the RySG team that
developed the recommendation Jeff is describing.
Trang Nguyen:@jeff, so essentially the recommendation is to expand string
similarity review to encompass meaning as well (new vs. news)?
Karen Day:sounds like I still have no audio
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):@Trang: No.
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):New/News was not a good example.
Karen Day:my sincere apologies everyone, but it seems my company is
experiencing a VOIP outage now.
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):yes
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):or, cake and cakes (as used in the doc)
Jon Nevett:.child and .children too?
Jon Nevett:how about ING?
Rubens Kuhl:.cool x .kühl ?
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):not covered
Jon Nevett:conduct and conducting?
Jon Nevett:should we expand?
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):@Jon: Up to this group. RySG sub team
decided not to go beyond singular and plural
Jon Nevett:right -- think and thinking is no more or less confusing than
child and children
Jeff Neuman:potentially.....but what about .book and .booking? There are
more examples where adding an ing is not necessarily confusing
Jeff Neuman:As long as there is a short appeals process for someone to
challenge the string similarity review as well, I think we are covered
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):@Rubens: My recollection from the RySG
subteam discussion was that we didn't want to cross languages/scripts
because of the potential disadvantage to IDNs.
Jeff Neuman:@Kristina - correct
Rubens Kuhl:Most phising activity does not require support from the TLD.
Unfortunately firstbank.tk is as effective as first.bank. Hopefully that
might change in the future, but the current situation of phishing is not
much affected by TLD.
Terri Agnew:@Jeff, your mic is not active at this time
avri doria:when we say we don't support plurals, do we mean they go into a
contention seet? someone may prefer the plural.
Terri Agnew:@jeff, it is now active
Rubens Kuhl:@Avri, I believe it would be contention set if similar to
applicant, denied if similar to existent TLD.
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):@Avri: Yes, they go into a contention
set
avri doria:ot it. just checking. the phrase don't accept threw me
Jon Nevett:but new and news ok
Rubens Kuhl:.campus x .campi
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):@Alan: Yes, that's why we referenced
using a dictionary to determine the plural
Jon Nevett:forum and fora would be in the same set
avri doria:does the rule apply across all languages?
Annebeth Lange, ccNSO 2:In Norwegian it is another way - adding "en" for
singular and "ene" for plural. But I suppose not many Norwegian years will
be applied for
Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):i can answer this . . .
avri doria:both inter-language and intra-language
Rubens Kuhl:Straß, Stras·se
avri doria:ok only intra-language
avri doria:any lnaguage for which tere is a dictionary?
Greg Shatan:Was cross-language but not cross script considered?
Greg Shatan:That would avoid the IDN issue.
Rubens Kuhl:@Avri, I think languages without written form is already
excluded from the domain name system. Like Tupi-Guarani.
Rubens Kuhl:(are)
avri doria:just lookiing for a generalizable rule
Jeff Neuman:i think we should defer
Jeff Neuman:until next call
Terri Agnew:next call: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 3 –
String Contention, Objections & Disputes will take place on Tuesday, 07
March 2017 at 15:00 UTC.
Jeff Neuman:I think we should also spend some time next time on String
confusion objections as well since we only hit similarity
Jeff Neuman:There were 2 other recommendations
Terri Agnew:@Karen, apology is noted for 07 March call
Jeff Neuman:good call!
Robin Gross:Thanks Karen and all. Bye!
avri doria:bye, thanks
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