[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] France seizes France.com from man who’s had it since ‘94, so he sues - Ars Technica

Mon Apr 30 18:21:13 UTC 2018

While your message is clear Aslam, I would set the boundaries rather
differently: 

Either ICANN's policy development process is able to come up with a
Domain Name policy that is "consistent" over all categories and for all
areas (1st and 2nd level, brands, ccTLD mangers, pure unrestricted
generics, GeoNames, communities, highly restricted sectors, and whatever
other sub-segmenet you may want to include) or somebody else will do it
for us. 

For there is no weaker Achilles heel in policy making, than
inconsistency over time. 

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Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez

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El 2018-04-30 11:58, Aslam Mohamed escribió:

> I can't but agree with you more Greg. In our blinkered view of a limited mandate we disregard the big picture. But ICANN seems confused on how to tackle the governmental autocracy. The issue lies there - diplomacy or war?
> 
> Yours sincerely, 
> Aslam G Mohamed. IP Attorney  
> International Legal Consulting  
> M: +1 646 243 9857. 
> 
> On Apr 30, 2018, at 1:35 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm well aware of the scope of the WG.  However, we don't operate in a vacuum, and this case is both relevant and instructive -- in terms of issues and arguments and for outcomes. 
> 
> Greg 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 1:24 PM Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote: 
> It is also a reminder of  the level of bullying that some governments are capable of doing in this space and their disregard for the legitimate rights of others to use words in the DNS.  This is a serious concern -- to see such little regard for the freedom of expression rights to use words with a geographic meaning.  Absent an actual internationally agreed legal rule that holds people can't use the word "France" or other words with geographic meanings, it would be a huge mistake for ICANN to adopt such an anti-innovation and pro-censorship position in domain name policy as demanded by some govts here. 
> 
> Robin 
> 
> On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:36 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> Great, lets keep it limited. But thanks Greg for reminding us where we can end up..   some  supported two-letter second level domain names that correspond to cctlds to go to governments and  cctld managers in new gtlds. Some of those were generic pronouns like in and it. But no one had mercy on generic names and no justifiable reason was given other than oh governments own everything when it comes to their cctld... or at least can claim ownership. The irony? Some of those cctld managers are actually private companies benefiting handsomely from this.  
> 
> Farzaneh 
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul at gutierrez.se> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Greg!
> 
> Very interesting but I'm afraid our scope is limited to the top level..... 
> 
> On April 29, 2018 1:31:59 PM CST, Javier Rua <javrua at gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Greg.
> 
> Javier Rúa-Jovet 
> 
> +1-787-396-6511 
> twitter: @javrua 
> skype: javier.rua1 
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua  
> 
> On Apr 29, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I thought this article would be of interest to WT5. 
> 
> Greg 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:37 PM
> Subject: France seizes France.com [1] from man who's had it since '94, so he sues - Ars Technica
> To: <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> 
> 
> France seizes France.com [1] from man who's had it since '94, so he sues - Ars Technica
> 
> https://apple.news/AxM_G3MkGSXW8YOXTibo8wg 
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