[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC

Javier Rua javrua at gmail.com
Wed May 16 12:51:22 UTC 2018


Jorge, Liz, All:

Thanks for your thoughtful comments.  In several calls, as well as emails on the list, we have seen a recurring theme supporting spaces early in the process designed for conflict avoidance to the extent that that is practicable. We have also seen related words of caution in terms that everything, including any early conversation processes, must come with good, predictable, objective substantive policies and rules.

We can definitely have a fruitful  discussion on specific topics such as these ones today and move this conversation forward!

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Javier Rúa-Jovet
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> On May 16, 2018, at 6:44 AM, Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange at norid.no> wrote:
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> Dear all,
>  
> Liz is making a fair point here, that applicants should do their own due diligence in all aspects of their applications. However, if we in any way can make the application process easier and offer some advice, that can help the applicants in their due diligence process.
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> Annebeth
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> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of "Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch" <Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch>
> Date: Wednesday, 16 May 2018 at 12:26
> To: "liz.williams at auda.org.au" <liz.williams at auda.org.au>, "mazzone at ebu.ch" <mazzone at ebu.ch>
> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 at icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC
>  
> Dear Liz and all
>  
> I think it is a fair point that there is a clear distinction between the review panel and the advisory panel.
>  
> However, at the level of principle I feel that the experience and the added-value of the review panel had in the 2012 AGB round would probably be very helpful for applicants prior to filing their application – in the form of an (independent, expert) advisory body that would be at their disposal.
>  
> And as said, this would help applicants especially with those names with geographic significance not falling under the specific categories of the AGB and/or in difficult cases as some city names may be (where, as we have seen, there apparently are no comprehensive lists…).
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> Best
>  
> Jorge  
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> Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org] Im Auftrag von Liz Williams
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 11:39
> An: Mazzone, Giacomo <mazzone at ebu.ch>
> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 at icann.org
> Betreff: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC
>  
> Hello everyone
>  
> We need to be super careful here.  Firstly these are implementation details not policy principles although I appreciate efforts to resolve conflicts.
>  
> However, an evaluation panel has one function and that is to evaluate applications for all kinds of TLDs against a set of criteria.
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> It is unwise for it to have any other function, most particularly where there could be any cause for any conflict of interest with respect to any advisory role.  Applicants should do their own due diligence in all aspects of their applications.
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> No applications for any TLDs should be “hard cases” when application rules are clear, when evaluation takes place objectively and where contracting arrangements are known in advance with the production of a draft contract which is published along with the application materials.   If it takes us longer to get to consensus on the policy principles that guide those application rules then it is likely time well spent.
>  
> Liz
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> On 16 May 2018, at 6:44 pm, Mazzone, Giacomo <mazzone at ebu.ch> wrote:
>  
> Thank you Jorge.
> This seems to be a very good idea, but we need first to be clear among us what will be the advice that such group will provide.
> The need to arrive to a consensus on principles and criteria is primordial. Then of course –once we have clear guidelines- the case by case implementation could be very useful.
> Giacomo
>  
> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Annebeth Lange
> Sent: mercredi 16 mai 2018 10:00
> To: Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch
> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC
>  
> Hi Jorge  
>  
> This is a good idea. WT5 should work towards solutions that reduces conflicts. The more that can be done in advance to avoid complaints and litigation afterwards, the better. 
>  
> Looking forward to hear other members view on this. 
>  
> Kind regards
> Annebeth 
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> Annebeth B Lange
> UNINETT Norid AS
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> 16. mai 2018 kl. 09:28 skrev "Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch" <Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch>:
> 
> Dear Emily
>  
> Thanks for the useful slides.
>  
> One question/suggestion which comes to my mind: there is a geographic names review as part of the initial evaluation, i.e. when the applicant already has made significant investments. What if, in addition to that review, the geographic names panel would also be available on an advisory basis during the application preparation phase? It could advise on hard/unclear cases and also on names with geographic significance not covered by the specific geonames categories/lists included in the AGB 2012, as well as help in identifying relevant public authorities (with help from ICANN Org and GAC Members if needed)…
>  
> Probably this would avoid a lot of headaches and unexpected issues when the application is already further down the road, and would allow for early contact with the relevant public authorities…
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> Hope this helps
>  
> Jorge
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> Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org] Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 08:23
> An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 at icann.org
> Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC
>  
> Dear Work Track 5 Members,
>  
> Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on Wednesday 16 May at 14:00 UTC.
>  
> Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates
> Administration/Capturing and Managing Input
> Geographic Names Process Review
> AOB
>  
> Slides for the call are attached for reference.
>  
> Kind regards,
> Emily
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>  
> Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist
> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
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