[gnso-newmtgstrat-dt] Heretic suggestion

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Tue Apr 14 13:32:39 UTC 2015


Hi all,

as to the short meeting, we could make our lives easier by just 
maintaining the current schedules of the week-end sessions as they are. 
Considering that the "official" meeting starts on Monday within the 
current meeting structures, the Council Weekend Working sessions could 
be considered as extra time already, so maintaining that extra time for 
the short meeting structure would not be much of a leap. It would free 
us from the need to squeeze our meetings into a shorter schedule or from 
having to start cutting items off our agendas.

As I said, heretical.

Best,

Volker

Am 30.03.2015 um 19:44 schrieb James M. Bladel:
> Ooops!  Never mind…
>
> Thanks, Marika. :)
>
> J.
>
>
> From: James Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:42
> To: Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net 
> <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>>, Marika Konings 
> <marika.konings at icann.org <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>, 
> "gnso-newmtgstrat-dt at icann.org <mailto:gnso-newmtgstrat-dt at icann.org>" 
> <gnso-newmtgstrat-dt at icann.org <mailto:gnso-newmtgstrat-dt at icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-newmtgstrat-dt] Kickoff?
>
> Maybe set up a Doodle for some times next week? Is Europe on Summer 
> Time yet?
>
> J.
>
>
> From: Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net 
> <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>>
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:08
> To: Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org 
> <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>, "gnso-newmtgstrat-dt at icann.org 
> <mailto:gnso-newmtgstrat-dt at icann.org>" <gnso-newmtgstrat-dt at icann.org 
> <mailto:gnso-newmtgstrat-dt at icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-newmtgstrat-dt] Kickoff?
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am breaking the prolonged silence to propose that we hold a 
> (regular) meeting in the near future to move ahead with the 
> discussion. Clearly, there is a wide range of opinions and it would be 
> disastrous for us not to be able to present some preliminary ideas by 
> Buenos Aires and a more definite plan by Dublin.
>
> Best,
>
> Volker
>
> Am 16.03.2015 um 17:17 schrieb Marika Konings:
>> Hi Volker,
>>
>> Thank you for kicking this off - as the deadline for volunteers was 
>> last Friday I was planning to send out a note of welcome this week 
>> but you beat me to the punch ;-)
>>
>> For your information, the following SG/C representatives are 
>> subscribed to the mailing list:
>>
>>   * Bret Fausett (RySG)
>>   * Tony Holmes (ISPCP)
>>   * Rudi Vansnick (NPOC)
>>   * Volker Greimann (RySG)
>>   * James Bladel (RySG)
>>   * Bill Drake (NCUC)
>>
>> Volunteers from the BC and IPC may still be forthcoming.
>>
>> To facilitate the conversation, I have prepared the attached document 
>> which outlines the proposed outline for the three yearly meetings by 
>> the ICANN Meetings Strategy Working Group to which I have added in 
>> yellow the current GNSO meetings and how these may fit in meetings A 
>> and C. As Volker noted, meeting B is a completely different format 
>> which will likely require the most consideration. To encourage ideas 
>> and suggestions on how this meeting could look from a GNSO 
>> perspectives, I’ve added a draft outline. Of course, this is just to 
>> start of the conversation and thinking, taking into the 4-day meeting 
>> format.
>>
>> The objective for this group is to present the GNSO Council with a 
>> proposed format at the latest by the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires so 
>> that there is sufficient time to socialise the proposed GNSO approach 
>> for the new ICANN meeting strategy with other SO/ACs as obviously 
>> there will need to be co-ordination between the different groups to 
>> minimise conflicts and potential overlap. On that note, do you think 
>> it will be helpful to schedule a conference call to discuss next 
>> steps and proposed approach for completing this task, or do you 
>> prefer to continue conversations by email for now?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Marika
>>
>> On 16/03/15 16:57, "Volker Greimann" <vgreimann at key-systems.net 
>> <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Strategy team,
>>
>>     as we have not had any feedback on this channel for the past two
>>     weeks,
>>     I feel it is appropriate to kick off the discussion to ensure we are
>>     ready with a proposal in time for the first meetings under the new
>>     schedule.
>>
>>     The one meeting we should probably focus on is the four-day
>>     meeting as
>>     it would require the largest re-adjustment, whereas the "normal" and
>>     "long" meetings will probably allow the council to operate with
>>     business
>>     as usual.
>>
>>     Frankly, I currently see no way of how to fit in the current
>>     schedules
>>     of the council into the small meeting unless councillors will be in
>>     session for the entirety of the meeting, and therely lose the
>>     ability to
>>     communicate effectively outside the council. We will therefore be
>>     faced
>>     with limited choices:
>>
>>     1) Fit the current schedule into the new meeting;
>>     2) Cut down the council meeting to its bare essentials;
>>     3) Add time to the meeting, very much like current practice;
>>     4) Eliminate the council face-to-face meeting at the short meeting.
>>
>>     Personally, I lean toward support for option 3, as the other options
>>     would result in a loss of effectiveness of the council.
>>
>>     Anyway, with this, I hope a fruitful discussion kicks off.
>>
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>>     Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
>>
>>     Volker A. Greimann
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