[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] MP3 PPSAI WG - Tuesday 22 April 2014 at 1400 UTC
Terri Agnew
terri.agnew at icann.org
Tue Apr 22 15:04:36 UTC 2014
Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services
Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 22 April 2014 at
14:00 UTC at:
<http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140422-en.mp3>
http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140422-en.mp3
On page:
<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar%23mar>
http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr
The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master
Calendar page:
<http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/
Attendees:
Luc Seufer - RrSG
Graeme Bunton - RrSG
Tim Ruiz - RrSG
Steve Metalitz - IPC
Kathy Kleiman - RySG
Darcy Southwell - RrSG
Libby Baney - BC
Susan Prosser - RrSG
Justin Macy - BC
Jim Bikoff - IPC
David Heasley - IPC
Michele Neylon - RrSG
Jennifer Standiford - RrSG
James Bladel - RrSG
Volker Greimann - RrSG
Tatiana Khramtsova - RrSG
Paul McGrady - IPC
Tobias Sattler - RrSG
Phil Marano - IPC
Christain Dawson - ISPCP
Don Blumenthal - RySG
Griffin Barnett - IPC
Valeriya Sherman - IPC
Amr Elsadr - NCUC
Maria Farrell - NCUC
Marie-Laure Lemineur - NPOC
Todd Williams - IPC
Don Moody - IPC
Michael Palage - RySG
Alex Deacon - IPC
Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC
Apologies:
Gema Campillos - GAC
Kristina Rosette - IPC
Sarah Wyld - RrSG
Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP
ICANN staff:
Marika Konings
Mary Wong
Amy Bivins
Joe Catapano
Terri Agnew
** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
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Wiki page:
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Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri Agnew
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Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 22 April 2014:
Marika Konings:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 22 April 2014
Amr Elsadr:Yes. Hello.
Graeme Bunton:G'mornin all
Bladel:g'mornin' y'all
Michele Neylon:Getting more coffee
Michele Neylon:but listening
Alex Deacon:Good morning.
Terri Agnew:Tim Ruiz has joined audio
Tim Ruiz:I am now also on adobe.
Terri Agnew:Jennifer standiford has joined
Jennifer Standiford:good morning
Bladel:More of a notification at this point. :)
Terri Agnew:Phil Marano has joined
Terri Agnew:Volker Greimann has joined
Volker Greimann:sorry for my lateness
Kathy K:we're not looking for perfect - just good, workable and hopefully
as automated as easy as possible
Volker Greimann:Tim: I'd put them in the "nice to have" category
Darcy Southwell:One concern I have with this idea is that, if the transfer
fails, we now have our privacy service information listed without any
connection to a P/P customer that we have.
Tim Ruiz:@Volker, right.
Bladel:Agree with Tim. IF you suppor this, here are some uniform
standards. But agree we shouldn't require feature sets.
Terri Agnew:Maria Farrell has joined
Volker Greimann:I would see it as a recommendation according to these
lines: "To enable privacy protection during transfers, the gaining/losing
registrar may...."
Bladel:I think we should address Steve's first point: Is this a matter of
policy or product development/innovation?
Paul McGrady:I would be happy to be in that offline subgroup if everyone
decides we should have one
Terri Agnew:Marie-Laure Lemineur has joined
Volker Greimann:that way we could implement policy excemptions to transfer
policies, RAA requirements, etc.
Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:Apologies for the being late
steve metalitz:I am open to making this an accreditation requirement IF
there is a practical way to do it. The purpose of the subgroup would be to
answer whether it is practical.
steve metalitz:"This" = enabling transfer without losing p/p protection.
Kathy K:Agree with Steve!
Paul McGrady:Agree with Steve and Kathy
Amr Elsadr:Also agree with Steve.
Val Sherman:+1 @Steve
Tim Ruiz:Could we not just say that all notices required via RAA or Policy
by ICANN should be relayed?
Darcy Southwell:Agree with Steve, Kathy, and Tim.
Kathy K:If the
Kathy K:Registrant has the AuthInfo code, does that help?
Kathy K:Is there an AuthInfo code for the Redemption Grace Period?
Michele Neylon:You can't transfer during redemption
Kathy K:+1 Tim - and tx you!
Kathy K:Michele, tx for clarification.
Kathy K:Understand
Tim Ruiz:Conditions under which a p/p would terminate its service should
be REQUIRED to be communicated to the beneficial user. But providing for
non-diclosure of their data if transfering should only be suggested, or at
most a best practice recommendation.
Kathy K:Interesting, can we factor in Tim's information?
Kathy K:In this case too, it seems there is no reason to disclose the
underlying personal data of the Registrant
Michele Neylon:I'll shove my comment in the chat
Michele Neylon:Can you force me to do business with someone?
Michele Neylon:We're a private company
Michele Neylon:We could say that we don't support a particular type of
software
Michele Neylon:0h wait - we do that already :)
Bladel:correct.
Kathy K:+1 to Steve's suggestion for a subgroup on Transfers. I volunteer.
Tim Ruiz:No objection to "small" group looking at the transfer issues as a
whole, but will it be small?
Bladel:I agree Michele. Then that takes "mandatory" privacy/proxy service
transfers off the table.
Tim Ruiz:Don't we require registries to deal with all registrars except
under certain specific situations.
Michele Neylon:Thankfully KS is a reseller / wholesaler so they have
experience
Michele Neylon:Tim - they have to abuse us all equally
Tim Ruiz:Exactly. So should we not have to abuse all accredited p/p
services equally.
Paul McGrady:Great call! Thanks everyone.
Kathy K:Great, tx Don and All!
Michele Neylon:We don't have to offer all TLDs
Phil Marano:Thank you.
Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:thank you Don
Mary Wong:Thanks everyone.
Michele Neylon:But it's an interesting question ..
Michele Neylon:*gone*
Tobias Sattler:Bye
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