[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list

Luc SEUFER lseufer at dclgroup.eu
Wed May 21 09:34:37 UTC 2014

As often I agree with Michele.

I think P/P services should be available to anyone. If lawmakers (in the EU at least) extend the mandatory identification of commercial website publishers and hosting providers to domain name registrants, then we will have to find a way to deal with that. But for now, even those not so tech savvy people, were wise enough to distinguish between domain name and website content and I trust we ought to uphold the same level of wisdom.

I also believe the information displayed in the whois should be the same no matter the registrant’s details protected by the p/p service.

Lastly, adding a flag in the whois to indicate that a domain name is using the services of a p/p service seems a good idea to me. I reckon it would help in many instances, such as for example in case of UDRP or URS proceedings.

I don’t recall which registrar who is providing p/p service is (was) putting a disclaimer at the bottom of the whois record to that effect. But if they did not patented that idea, I think it would be a nice improvement (providing this within the scope of our charter).


On May 21, 2014, at 0:06, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:

Personally I think two things:
1 – P/P services should be open to anyone who wants to use them
2 – the display in whois should be the same no matter who or what has registered the domain

With respect to point 2, I don’t have any issue with there being a “flag” of some kind to indicate that a registration record is using an accredited P/P



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Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list

Thanks to all participants on today’s call.  Following up on requests made on the call ----

Regarding Don’s draft preliminary text regarding questions C(threshold), C 1 and C2, please circulate your comments and (especially welcomed!) proposed edits.  Don’s draft is re-attached here for ready reference.

Regarding question C.3:  If the following applies to you, please respond on the list:

IF you believe that privacy/proxy services ought to be open to commercial entities under some circumstances, THEN should there be a difference in the data displayed for such registrations (vs. what is displayed for p/p registrations by natural persons)?  If the answer is YES, please specify the differences.

For myself I will say that my answer is NO, but I hope that any YES people will step forward on the list.


Steve Metalitz, vice chair

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Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed Agenda - PPSAI WG Meeting

Dear All,

Please find below the proposed agenda for tomorrow's PPSAI WG Meeting.

Best regards,


Proposed Agenda – PPSAI WG Meeting – 20 May 2014

  1.  Roll Call / SOI
  2.  Review proposed preliminary conclusion for threshold question, C1 and C2 (as circulated by Don)
  3.  Review C3 – is additional response/discussion needed in light of item 2? (see template attached)
  4.  Continue deliberations on D1 (see updated template attached)
  5.  Next steps / confirm next meeting

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