[Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy] Privacy Team Checklist - 6 April

Thu Apr 7 00:56:06 UTC 2016

That is a great line, Ayden, I totally agree and I snort about 
electronic fees so often that I am now an old curmudgeon clinging 
stubbornly to paper.  I won't tell you how long my hard copy of Graham's 
book has sat on my study couch, where I can get a pennysworth of 
enjoyment every day I look at it, at least. (I am not getting through it 
anytime soon, at 577 pages)
Fav chapter for our purposes is, in my view, Chapter 3, Standards by 
which to assess a Country's Data Privacy Laws.  Now that is not much 
help in predicting how a country will find with respect to the question 
of WHOIS, but it shows those unfamiliar with DP law what scholars look 
for in assessing a framework.  I would note that much later on, he 
analyses the Bennett and Raab prediction re race to the top, race to the 
bottom, and finds in fact high standards in Asian law.
One thing you could do, as the index is v unhelpful in looking for 
keywords like ICAnn and WHOIS and public registry, is do a scan when you 
get your hands on the electronic version.  i would love to know if he 
has found any cases on WHOIS.
thanks! Stephanie

On 2016-04-06 19:06, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
> Hi Stephanie,
>
> The LSE is kind enough to grant alumni access to e-books, so I have 
> access to the full text you mentioned (Asian Data Privacy Laws: Trade 
> & Human Rights Perspectives). I can summarise a few chapters, though I 
> wouldn't be able to do so until mid next week. If you have the 
> contents page handy, might you be able to suggest which chapter(s) I 
> should summarise? That being said, I think the point you alluded to, 
> though — that we, as a Working Group, should all have the same access 
> to review in full the texts we are summarising — is a very valid one. 
> I think the Guardian put it best when they said, “academic publishers 
> make Murdoch look like a socialist.” £74.75 for 24 hours access to 
> that text, which was probably funded through government research 
> grants and academic stipends? It hardly seems justifiable…
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 6:09 PM, Stephanie Perrin via Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy 
> gnso-rds-pdp-privacy at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-privacy at icann.org> 
> wrote:
>
>     Yes it certainly clears up the redundancy that I thought I
>     saw....I figured one reference is enough as the links are all
>     there, but whatever you like.ï¿½ Not sure the article adds a whole
>     pile to our understanding but I am immersed in this stuff.ï¿½ And
>     yes, there is an ebook but the price point is (IMHO) a bit nutty
>     and I did not think you could just buy one chapter.ï¿½ I am old
>     fashioned, I like the book in my hand....
>     I can of course siphon off one chapter through my uni library but
>     this is not cricket, so thought I would ask Graham how he felt
>     about sharing it. He may also, being prolific, have spun that work
>     off in an article we could find somewhere (not me, not now)
>     Thanks again Lisa!
>     cheers steph
>     On 2016-04-06 12:58, Lisa Phifer wrote:
>>     Thanks Stephanie. I had noticed that Kathy suggested the same
>>     Greenleaf book that you had, but thought it important to add the
>>     article about the tables also cited by Kathy. That's why the
>>     checklist contains both:
>>
>>     * Global Tables (2015, abstract and PDF download here:
>>     http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2603502
>>     <http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2603502>) and
>>
>>     * Article about the Global Tables (2015, abstract and PDF
>>     download here:
>>     http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2603529
>>     <http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2603529>)
>>
>>     Please let me know if that doesn't clear up the apparent
>>     redundancy. No doubt it would be useful for the same person to
>>     review/summarize both together for the privacy team, since the
>>     article discusses recent updates to the table and the trends
>>     behind them.
>>
>>     FYI, Greenleaf's 2014 book is available commercially as an e-book
>>     - see https://books.google.com/books?id=0eAuBQAAQBAJ
>>     <https://books.google.com/books?id=0eAuBQAAQBAJ> . Since we don't
>>     have public access to it, perhaps you could summarize the chapter
>>     you found useful? Doing that now would at least help the WG
>>     remember this resource exists when the time comes for detailed
>>     analysis of privacy laws.
>>
>>     Best, Lisa
>>
>>
>>     At 09:23 AM 4/6/2016, Stephanie Perrin via Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy
>>     wrote:
>>>     Thanks Lisa, there is a redundancy, in that the global table I
>>>     sent you (SSRN article by Greenleaf) is the same as the one
>>>     Kathy resent which appears below it.ï¿½
>>>     In his 2014 book on asian privacy laws, which I did not send as
>>>     it is hardcover only, there is an excellent chapter on how to
>>>     evaluate/compare privacy laws, which has always been a puzzle
>>>     for WHOIS discussions.ï¿½ I could summarize that but probably
>>>     not distribute a scanned copy, however graham is a great
>>>     advocate for access so if interested I could pester him and see
>>>     if he has an electronic version.
>>>     cheers stephanie
>>>
>>>     On 2016-04-06 10:39, Lisa Phifer via Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy wrote:
>>>>     Hello all,
>>>>
>>>>     Today's updated privacy team checklist (attached) was just
>>>>     posted to the wiki at:
>>>>     https://community.icann.org/x/p4xlAw
>>>>     <https://community.icann.org/x/p4xlAw>
>>>>
>>>>     Just follow the link above if you're looking for the latest
>>>>     daily update of any team's checklist.
>>>>
>>>>     In today's checklist update, to make it clearer which docs are
>>>>     not yet assigned, I have removed the ? names from the "Reviewed
>>>>     by" column. As you can see, there are still plenty of docs
>>>>     identified by this team over the past week or so that could
>>>>     still use volunteers to review them. For those not certain how
>>>>     much work is involved: summaries should be concise - for
>>>>     example, "executive summaries" that point the WG to the
>>>>     portions of the document most relevant to RDS privacy and why.
>>>>
>>>>     Best, Lisa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     At 11:49 AM 4/5/2016, David Cake via Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>     Please find attached a summary of the proposed plan to finish
>>>>>     the sub-teams input summarising work as presented on todays
>>>>>     call. Weï¿½?Td like to get this document summarising work done
>>>>>     (of course, we know other relevant documents may be published
>>>>>     from here on, but we can handle those as the come) so we can
>>>>>     get back to full WG mode and start proceeding with the rest of
>>>>>     the work plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>     So what we are asking of you now is:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Please look at the input checklist provided, choose at least
>>>>>     one input (ideally one that has not been looked at yet) that
>>>>>     you are wiling to summarise, and email the whole group to let
>>>>>     them know that you are working on it. Aim to have these
>>>>>     summaries done by Monday.
>>>>>     Please try to do this by the end of Wednesday.
>>>>>
>>>>>     This doesnï¿½?Tt mean that we are necessarily done with
>>>>>     identification of new inputs - if you have someone else
>>>>>     valuable to add, feel free to continue to do so. But the focus
>>>>>     should now be on summarising what we have.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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