[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW

Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal va at bladebrains.com
Wed Aug 31 16:06:15 UTC 2016


1. I am not reading
2. Thanks for the Suggestion Greg ­ Un wanted.
3. Now I think this is a List where Only so much is discussed ­ for the time
being. 

Lastly ­ TO CLOSE THIS THREAD  - Offense is Unintentional. love always


From:  Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
Date:  Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 9:07 PM
To:  Vaibhav Aggarwal <va at bladebrains.com>
Cc:  "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com>, Michele Neylon - Blacknight
<michele at blacknight.com>, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>,
"gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the
internet? -- FCW

Vaibhav,

You are misreading the situation quite spectacularly.  I will correct only
one aspect, since (you are right) I don't have time for more.

For the record, I have a great deal of professional and respect and even
affection for Andrew and find him to be among the most knowledgeable and
relevant participants in our work. (That doesn't mean I agree with
everything he says or writes....)  I would expect that to be roundly
seconded (but hope for the sake of traffic  it won't be and will be
understood as such; perhaps disagreements only, would be a good approach to
minimize email traffic).

I suggest that if you are not interested in other people's opinions on a
particular matter, you shouldn't post to the list. You may also wish to
consider how important listening and valuing other people's opinions is in a
bottom-up, consensus-driven, deliberative process such as this, if you wish
your contributions to be meaningful to and valued by others in the long run
(as I presume you do).  Please take this in the constructive spirit in which
it is being offered.

Best regards,

Greg

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal
<va at bladebrains.com> wrote:
> This is Overboard. Pandora’s Box. With
> It was just a Share for FYI - People have too much time at hand to write mails
> ? To Asert is anything is relevant or not. In all fairness, if they want to
> read - so don’t read - Why create a fuss over it ? And I am writing this the
> 4th time ­ Hard to read ?
> Use Case : I did not find your Pictures relevant so I stayed Quite. Well I did
> not want to see or know about the trees that does not mean others didn’t or
> want ?? How is it to me ????
> So I am speaking for myself, You wasted my valuable time :-)
> 
> And it clearly implies, people don’t like Andrew BUT neither this is of my
> concern nor anyone asked anyone’s opinion.
> 
> On 8/31/16, 8:21 PM, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:
> 
>> VA,
>> 
>> With all respect, I do not think that Michele's message was irrelevant at
>> all.  This is not the place to discuss the IANA transition.  And it is
>> important that we stay focused on our task.  So I suggest that everyone heed
>> his advice.
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Catalyst-Vaibhav
>> Aggarwal
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:01 AM
>> To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Andrew Sullivan
>> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the
>> internet? -- FCW
>> 
>> Please don¹t write such Messages in this List - Its irrelevant !!!
>> I, can¹t say for others, don¹t need you to tell us if other groups are
>> existing or if IANA was important.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -Over & Out from Me
>> 
>> On 8/31/16, 7:20 PM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight"
>> <michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> All
>>> 
>>> The IANA transition is a very important and interesting topic for
>>> discussion.
>>> 
>>> However this PDP¹s mailing list is not the appropriate venue for those
>>> discussions. There are plenty of other mailing lists and groups where
>>> the discussion would be more pertinent.
>>> 
>>> If you have a burning desire to discuss it with some of this group¹s
>>> members please do so offlist.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Michele
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 30/08/2016, 19:52, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
>>> Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org on
>>> behalf of va at bladebrains.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>     It's just relevant - not important to be discussed. So if anyone
>>> thinking it is to be discussed- super not kool :-)
>>>     
>>>     My share was just fyi - not discussion ! Some people chose to make
>>> it a point to argue - well i chose to asert !
>>>     
>>>     Next time no Harry potter stories ;-)
>>>     
>>>     Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
>>>     
>>>>     > On Aug 31, 2016, at 12:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan
>>> <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
>>>>     > 
>>>>     > Dear colleagues,
>>>>     > 
>>>>>     >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:33:50PM +0530, Group CEO-Vaibhav
>>> Aggarwal wrote:
>>>>>     >> Right so where is it irrelevant ? It is relevant - in this
>>> group, in other groups or even in the professional roles we are in !!!
>>>>     > 
>>>>     > While I'm flattered that anyone should even notice anything I
>>>>     > published anywhere, I think there are other venues around ICANN that
>>>>     > are concentrating on the IANA transition, and I suggest that perhaps
>>>>     > their mailing lists are a better place to discuss that topic.  This
>>>>     > PDP will almost certainly proceed the same way regardless of what
>>>>     > happens with the IANA stewardship transition, and it is helpful to
>>>>     > keep the list discussion focussed on the topic at hand.
>>>>     > 
>>>>     > Best regards,
>>>>     > 
>>>>     > A
>>>>     > -- 
>>>>     > Andrew Sullivan
>>>>     > ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
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