[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Wed Aug 31 15:37:00 UTC 2016


Vaibhav,

You are misreading the situation quite spectacularly.  I will correct only
one aspect, since (you are right) I don't have time for more.

For the record, I have a great deal of professional and respect and even
affection for Andrew and find him to be among the most knowledgeable and
relevant participants in our work. (That doesn't mean I agree with
everything he says or writes....)  I would expect that to be roundly
seconded (but hope for the sake of traffic  it won't be and will be
understood as such; perhaps disagreements only, would be a good approach to
minimize email traffic).

I suggest that if you are not interested in other people's opinions on a
particular matter, you shouldn't post to the list. You may also wish to
consider how important listening and valuing other people's opinions is in
a bottom-up, consensus-driven, deliberative process such as this, if you
wish your contributions to be meaningful to and valued by others in the
long run (as I presume you do).  Please take this in the constructive
spirit in which it is being offered.

Best regards,

Greg

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal <
va at bladebrains.com> wrote:

> This is Overboard. Pandora’s Box. With
> It was just a Share for FYI - People have too much time at hand to write
> mails ? To Asert is anything is relevant or not. *In all fairness, if
> they want to read - so don’t read - Why create a fuss* over it ? *And I
> am writing this the 4th time – Hard to read ?*
> *Use Case : I did not find your Pictures relevant so I stayed Quite. Well
> I did not want to see or know about the trees that does not mean others
> didn’t or want ?? How is it to me ????*
> So I am speaking for myself, You wasted my valuable time :-)
>
> And it clearly implies, people don’t like Andrew BUT neither this is of my
> concern nor anyone asked anyone’s opinion.
>
> On 8/31/16, 8:21 PM, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:
>
> VA,
>
> With all respect, I do not think that Michele's message was irrelevant at
> all.  This is not the place to discuss the IANA transition.  And it is
> important that we stay focused on our task.  So I suggest that everyone
> heed his advice.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-
> bounces at icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of
> Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:01 AM
> To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Andrew Sullivan
> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the
> internet? -- FCW
>
> Please don¹t write such Messages in this List - Its irrelevant !!!
> I, can¹t say for others, don¹t need you to tell us if other groups are
> existing or if IANA was important.
>
> Thanks
> -Over & Out from Me
>
> On 8/31/16, 7:20 PM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight"
> <michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
>
> All
>
> The IANA transition is a very important and interesting topic for
> discussion.
>
> However this PDP¹s mailing list is not the appropriate venue for those
> discussions. There are plenty of other mailing lists and groups where
> the discussion would be more pertinent.
>
> If you have a burning desire to discuss it with some of this group¹s
> members please do so offlist.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Michele
>
>
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> On 30/08/2016, 19:52, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
> Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org on
> behalf of va at bladebrains.com> wrote:
>
>     It's just relevant - not important to be discussed. So if anyone
> thinking it is to be discussed- super not kool :-)
>
>     My share was just fyi - not discussion ! Some people chose to make
> it a point to argue - well i chose to asert !
>
>     Next time no Harry potter stories ;-)
>
>     Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
>
>     > On Aug 31, 2016, at 12:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan
> <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > Dear colleagues,
>     >
>     >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:33:50PM +0530, Group CEO-Vaibhav
> Aggarwal wrote:
>     >> Right so where is it irrelevant ? It is relevant - in this
> group, in other groups or even in the professional roles we are in !!!
>     >
>     > While I'm flattered that anyone should even notice anything I
>     > published anywhere, I think there are other venues around ICANN that
>     > are concentrating on the IANA transition, and I suggest that perhaps
>     > their mailing lists are a better place to discuss that topic.  This
>     > PDP will almost certainly proceed the same way regardless of what
>     > happens with the IANA stewardship transition, and it is helpful to
>     > keep the list discussion focussed on the topic at hand.
>     >
>     > Best regards,
>     >
>     > A
>     > --
>     > Andrew Sullivan
>     > ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
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