[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Input requested: RDS PDP WG Poll on Purpose - 13 December
Gomes, Chuck
cgomes at verisign.com
Tue Dec 20 16:35:41 UTC 2016
Ayden,
If I was convinced that sharing the poll participation levels would increase the number of responses, we would do that. My fear and that of the leadership team is that it would have the opposite effect and I am not willing to risk that at this time. As I said in my original response to Volker, we are monitoring the participation levels and will communicate to the WG if we see serious gaps in participation. On the most recent poll, there was a good balance of participation, albeit small.
I encourage members who have not been responding to the polls to start doing so. Then this won’t be an issue.
Chuck
From: Ayden Férdeline [mailto:icann at ferdeline.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:03 AM
To: Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Input requested: RDS PDP WG Poll on Purpose - 13 December
Hi Chuck,
A recurrent theme over the past few weeks seems to be a lack of participation in the poll. If there is a public record of which stakeholder groups / constituencies are participating in the polls, it may encourage greater participation.
I’m not looking to see the names of participants, nor am I looking to see which button they have checked in the poll (though I’d welcome people voluntarily sharing their positions on the list), but if we see that only certain stakeholder groups are participating in great numbers and others are not, we can work amongst ourselves to rectify that, as the position of, say, a single participant from a stakeholder group / constituency is not necessarily dispositive of the position of everyone with that affiliation. I see this as keeping ourselves accountable.
Best wishes,
Ayden Férdeline
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Subject: RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Input requested: RDS PDP WG Poll on Purpose - 13 December
Local Time: 19 December 2016 10:14 PM
UTC Time: 19 December 2016 22:14
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Thanks for the feedback Ayden. For the reasons I cited, I do not support doing this at this time but we can revisit it in the future if there seems to be a legitimate need. Please explain to me why you think it would add value and not detract from what we are trying to do.
Chuck
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Input requested: RDS PDP WG Poll on Purpose - 13 December
Thanks for sharing your thoughts here, Chuck. I agree that these polls should not be considered a referendum, but I do think there is value in collecting and publishing details on which stakeholder groups are participating in the poll. Perhaps we do not need to know that X voted for Y, but I would find it helpful to see a simple pie chart for each survey which broke down in an aggregate format which stakeholder groups had participated in the polling. Thanks for considering this suggestion for a future poll.
Ayden Férdeline
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Input requested: RDS PDP WG Poll on Purpose - 13 December
Local Time: 19 December 2016 5:46 PM
UTC Time: 19 December 2016 17:46
From: cgomes at verisign.com<mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>
To: vgreimann at key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net> <vgreimann at key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>>, gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
Thanks for the suggestion Volker but I have a few concerns/thoughts:
• We have made it very clear that the polls should not be considered votes and I fear that showing affiliation would make it seem more like a vote, as would determining whether a majority is reached.
• The intent of a poll is to clarify positions that were advocated in a WG meeting to make sure we capture them accurately and also to allow those who were not in the meeting to express their views.
• We will use the results of the polls to guide our agenda for the next meeting.
• A secondary but important purpose of polling is to facilitate active participation in between meetings.
• To keep our work flowing in a timely manner, it is critical that polls be kept brief and that response times are short; if members have to share their affiliation, they may feel obligated to check with the groups they represent, which will take more time; of course we expect that members will regularly be in communication with their respective groups but to so with every poll would be very hard.
• I think it is fair to assume that most of us have a pretty good idea about the views of the groups we represent so it should be possible in most cases for us to respond to poll questions in ways that are consistent or at least not inconsistent with the views of our group; there may be instances where we share our personal views, but that should still help us get a sense of where the WG is as a whole, understanding that we will have plenty of opportunity to verify that our personal views are supported by our groups going forward.
• A key success factor for our WG will be to uncover as many diverse points of view as possible, regardless of affiliation, so that we can then discuss them and strive to find areas of agreement.
• The leadership team will monitor the level of participation in polls from various constituency groups to make sure that there are not significant gaps and take steps as possible to close the gaps.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Volker Greimann
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Input requested: RDS PDP WG Poll on Purpose - 13 December
Hi Chuck,
one suggestion for future polls would be to also request all participants indicate their affiliation with the constituency they represent, so results can be sorted both by simple majority and by affiliation. I feel the latter gives a much clearer picture of how positions may be distributed and what may look like a majority in absolute numbers may turn out as only one or two vocal SGs or constituencies vs the rest.
Best,
Volker
Am 16.12.2016 um 19:10 schrieb Gomes, Chuck:
I know that everyone is busy and many are preparing for holidays but hope more of you will complete the poll. It should only take a few minutes and the more data we have for our meeting next week the better.
If you are still debating in your mind how you feel about the question, say that in the text box for item 2. That’s what I did.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Phifer
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Input requested: RDS PDP WG Poll on Purpose - 13 December
Dear all,
During the 13 December RDS PDP WG call, we started deliberation on the following charter question and sub-question:
2. Who should have access to gTLD registration data and why?
2.1 Should gTLD registration data be accessible for any purpose or only for specific purposes?
focusing first on how these questions apply to "thin data."
To give all WG members an opportunity to share opinions about concepts that surfaced during this call, we have launched the following poll:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6BMJLB2
Poll participation is optional, but sharing your thoughts through this poll will help us organize inputs for continued deliberation.
All poll responses received by COB Saturday 17 December will be aggregated and used as input to the next WG call.
Best regards,
Lisa
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