[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] WG Rhetoric

Olévié Kouami olivierkouami at gmail.com
Fri Jul 8 08:42:13 UTC 2016


Hi all
Let's move forwards guys.
Warm regards
Le 7 juil. 2016 23:58, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels at gmail.com> a
écrit :
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> I agree, due deference to context and intent.
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> -Carlton
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> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:
>>
>> Greg is correct. We must be able to disagree constructively if we expect
to do our job. And we also need to try to stay on task or we will find
ourselves being  very ineffective.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think Chuck was objecting to divergence or disagreements in
opinions or matters of substance in any way.  Rather, Chuck was remarking
on an elevated level of rhetoric and potentially offensive expression
apparent on the list.  This tends to cloud rather than clarify areas of
substantive disagreement, and to slow down rather than speed up the process
of moving toward consensus.
>>>
>>> My father used to refer to this as "generating more heat than light."
 In my view, we should strive to disagree without being disagreeable, and
seek to understand other views rather than to dismiss than out of hand
(e.g., because an email response doesn't come back fast enough to suit).
That doesn't mean we have to treat each other with kid gloves; rather,
there is a balance to be struck.  It's Chuck's role to notice when we are
out of balance, and to restore that balance.  I fully support Chuck's
intervention, both in substance and in timing.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Carlton Samuels <
carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Farell Folly <farellfolly at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> However, divergence is sometimes needed to make a better agreement
and implement a sustainable solution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ​+1
>>>>
>>>> I took a vacation. Seeing I have always invested my usual 3 weeks of
vacation time to ICANN endeavours, this is the first time in almost 10
years!
>>>>
>>>> The narrative we're supposed to credit says there are no agendas in an
ICANN/GNSO PDP WG. I generously grant that opinion status.
>>>>
>>>> The airing of disagreements, even to the point of what diplomats term
'a full and frank expression of views', sooner rather than later, is the
best approach for negotiating consensus. Might sound counterintuitive at
first blush but......​
>>>>
>>>> -Carlton
>>>>
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