[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] RDAP for Registration Data Service Upgrade?

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Wed May 25 02:44:19 UTC 2016

As I said Alex, might be controversial:-) I actually think there are 
demands on the table for a level of accuracy/authenticity in WHOIS that 
don't match the original purpose.  I would be delighted to hear your 
views/high level technical and business details on this.  Perhaps at 
Helsinki, rather than bore the list with my questions....

cheers Stephanie

On 2016-05-24 20:07, Deacon, Alex wrote:
> Hi Stephanie.
> I do not believe anyone has “demanded" that WHOIS become a “low grade 
> cert authority”, so there isn’t any need (or request) to “fix WHOIS to 
> do that”.  Note however that the current WHOIS system does support 
> this use case today.  I’m sure there are those who may feel it 
> shouldn’t but it is what it is.
> Anyway I’d be more than happy to fill you in on the high level 
> technical and businessl details here, but wanted to push back just a 
> tiny little bit on your mis-characterization of the use case expressed 
> in an earlier thread.
> Alex
> (wearing my well worn “spent 18 years in the certificate authority 
> business” hat)
>> On May 24, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Stephanie Perrin 
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca 
>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>> It is a nice little article, and we should definitely add RDAP 
>> related protocols to the list.  As for the various authentication 
>> systems possible....That may be controversial, but I think we need to 
>> have the authentication requirements spec'ed out.  (and costed out, 
>> but I guess that comes later) I am concerned that some folks are 
>> demanding that WHOIS, such as it is, act as some kind of low grade 
>> cert authority at the moment, for various purposes.  There is no 
>> affordable way of fixing WHOIS to do that, but we do need ID 
>> authentication and various trust levels to do the tiered access we 
>> recommended in the EWG report.
>> But I am not the techie here....
>> Stephanie Perrin
>> On 2016-05-24 18:26, Carlton Samuels wrote:
>>> This offers the possibility of implementing a new paradigm for 
>>> management and processing of registration data.
>>> Our EWG colleague Scott Hallenbeck knows a few things about this.
>>> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20160524_industry_collaboration_to_improve_registration_data_services/
>>> -Carlton
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