[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat Next-Gen RDS PDP 31 May 2016
michelle.desmyter at icann.org
Tue May 31 18:13:18 UTC 2016
Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the Next-Gen RDS PDP Working group call held on Tuesday, 31 May 2016 at 16:00 UTC.
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Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday, 31 May 2016
Michelle DeSmyter:Dear all, welcome to the Next-Gen RDS PDP WG Meeting on 31 May 2016 16:00 UTC
Michelle DeSmyter:member page/SOI: https://community.icann.org/x/I4xlAw
Michelle DeSmyter:agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/0xOOAw
Michelle DeSmyter:If you do wish to speak during the call, please either dial into the audio bridge and give the operator the password RDS, OR click on the telephone icon at the top of the AC room to activate your AC mics. Please remember to mute your phone and mics when not talking.
Susan Kawaguchi:Hello All
Daniel K. Nanghaka:Hello
Vlad Dinculescu:Hi All
Greg Shatan:Hello, all!
Maryan Rizinski:Hello everyone!
Lisa Phifer:Hello all, Chuck will be joining us shortly to start the call
Chuck Gomes:I will dial in instead of using Connect Me
Jim Galvin (Afilias):Hi - is there any audio? Trying to decide if my audio is working....
Chris Pelling:afternoon all
VAIBHAV AGGARWAL:Hey Guys !!!
Jim Galvin (Afilias):Not hearing anything....
Chris Pelling:I can hear audio
Roger Carney:I can hear as well
Chris Pelling:Michele just said Hi
Chris Pelling:Michelle *
Jim Galvin (Afilias):Sigh....
Holly Raiche:@Jim - everyone is just being polite
andrew sullivan:I can now hear Chuck too.
Farell FOLLY:Good afternoon everyone
Jim Galvin (Afilias):Gave up on AdobeConnect audio - on the phone now too...
Ayden Férdeline:hi all
Ankur Raheja:Hello All
Benny Samuelsen / Nordreg AB:please enable scroll on document
Ayden Férdeline 2:Hi. Just a quick question, if a document does not specifically reference the RDS, how should we capture it? Should we reasonably extend these so to be relevant for the RDS, or should we only capture the general principles raised in the source document? Thanks
Kathy Kleiman:requirements or possible requirements?
Lisa Phifer:possible requirements
Ayden Férdeline 2:thanks Lisa
Holly Raiche:Good question Kathy
David Cake:Yes. Good point Kathy.
Kathy Kleiman:To reflect for future chat readers: "actual requirements" today for Whois may be "possible requirements" for tomorrow's RDS
Lisa Phifer:docs that seem to be gaps becuase they were identified as significant:
Lisa Phifer:A29 WP on procs for handling conflicts with law
Lisa Phifer:A29 WP 203 3/2013
Lisa Phifer:A29 WP 217 4/2014
Lisa Phifer:Final EU 2016/679 of EU Parliament (new DP reg)
Lisa Phifer:EU DP directive (1995)
Richard Padilla:@lisa I will pick up A29 WP 203 3/2013
Kathy Kleiman:I'll be happy to take A29WP 203 3/2013 - which is realted to what I am currently working on.
Lisa Phifer:Greenleaf book/article
Holly Raiche:And the other point (arising from SAC 54 - is to look beyond the RAA so see what else may be 'required' or a least 'collected'
Fabricio Vayra:I'll take A29 WP on procs for handling conflicts with law
Richard Padilla:ok will take the A29 WP 217 4/2014 instead
Ankur Raheja:@lisa My first document is complete. Please sign me up for WHOIS New gTLD URS Policy and Rules for URS Policy. Thanks
VAIBHAV AGGARWAL:Can V Send an Email with just the List so that selection vS Interest is a concious decision
andrew sullivan:Note that we could specify mandatory fields and also ones that registries _may_ provide if they wish
andrew sullivan:a nice thing about any modern protocol for this sort of service is the tolerance for unknown fields
Ayden Férdeline 2:@Vaibhav Just to clarify - are you asking that we send a message to the list before we allocate these documents?
VAIBHAV AGGARWAL:Yes Please
VAIBHAV AGGARWAL:Self Consultation is a welcomed idea
Ayden Férdeline 2:We have had these documents circulating on the list for the past two weeks already... if people want to volunteer to take them now, I think that's great...
Holly Raiche:@ Andrew - true - and I don't think we can go beyond what people MUST do - but the data collected may still be covered by various data protection regimes
Kathy Kleiman:I think you may have volunteers for almost all the 8 now
Lisa Phifer:I think still missing EU DP directives (old and new), Greenleaf book/article, SAC051
Jim Galvin (Afilias):I'll do SAC051
Greg Shatan:I can do EU DP Reg 2016
Ayden Férdeline 2:7 June seems reasonable to me
Farell FOLLY:ok for me
Holly Raiche:I can do SAC 054 earlier than that.
Holly Raiche:Do we need the Greenleaf book within a week.? IIsn't the context for the book looking at various data protection laws globally?
Lisa Phifer:@Holly, Greenleaf book or article about trends - not sure what needs to be extracted, perhaps someone from the privacy subteam can weigh in
Greg Shatan:We now have 3 Gregs in this group. There oughta be a law....
Kathy Kleiman:@Greg - try being a Kathy :-)
Rod Rasmussen:Greg is in transit (air) at the moment.
Holly Raiche:@ Lisa - what specifically do we need from the Greenleaf publication? He is often at the UNSW lawfaculty and I can have a chat with him for information if that helps
Holly Raiche:I'll have a chat with them
Sana:I'll do 95 directive
Kathy Kleiman:Tx Chuck
VAIBHAV AGGARWAL:@Kathy Excellent Q & @Chuk "Applause"
Kathy Kleiman:Can we get control back to the document on the screen?
Kathy Kleiman:Tx you!
Ayden Férdeline 2:@Holly - Greanleaf in his (lengthy) book talks about privacy laws in Asia. He begins by mentioning how in Europe there are binding treaties on data protection and supranational courts which can make binding decisions on privacy and data protection. Then he pivots to Asia where he says there are no equivalent international agreements or empowered deliberative bodies. So the European approach to privacy and data protection is very much top-down, whereas in Asia it is bottom up, with national laws the starting point. The other issue he raises is that not all countries in Asia have strong democratic institutions. It's an interesting book but very, very lengthy... if you are going to meet with him it might be helpful to ask if he knows anything specifically about WHOIS, as his book (to me) was more about how to evaluate/compare privacy laws
Holly Raiche:I have already bashed his ears about the Whoisissues - but will have another chat on these issues
Chris Pelling:Thanks all :)
Fabricio Vayra:thanks, Chuck!
Richard Padilla:Ok folks later
Sara Bockey:thank you all
Ayden Férdeline 2:thanks to all
Vlad Dinculescu:Thanks All
Maryan Rizinski:Thanks everyone, bye
Greg Shatan:Bye all!
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