[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll on Purpose

[Stephanie Perrin]

Unfortunately, in a world where the Internet of things is taking off, 
privacy advocates and authorities have to insist that data generated by 
or as a result of the actions of an individual or his devices(eg 
metadata, timestamping, etc) has to be considered as personal 
information.  If it is used to describe processes pertaining to that 
information, if it could be used to incriminate that individual, it is 
important that it be recognized as information for which individuals 
have rights.  Otherwise, we have a situation where the individual has no 
right to access information that may impact him, may incriminate him, 
but to which he may be utterly oblivious.  Sorry it is such a pain in 
the neck, but there we are.

Stephanie


On 2017-01-25 12:32, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>
> Scott
>
> Sure, but if we go down that route we could make cases for a lot of 
> things J
>
> My main problem with this entire debacle is that the data we’re 
> dealing with is pretty much useless and isn’t personally identifiable.
>
> Regards
>
> Michele
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> *From: *Scott Hollenbeck <shollenbeck at verisign.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday 25 January 2017 at 17:15
> *To: *Michele Neylon <michele at blacknight.com>, Stephanie Perrin 
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, Sam Lanfranco 
> <sam at lanfranco.net>, "dave at davecake.net" <dave at davecake.net>
> *Cc: *"gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll on Purpose
>
> *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org 
> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Michele 
> Neylon - Blacknight
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2017 12:09 PM
> *To:* Stephanie Perrin; Sam Lanfranco; David Cake
> *Cc:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll 
> on Purpose
>
> Stephanie
>
> Sorry, but policy + the technology go hand in hand. You cannot 
> completely separate them and any policy that this (or any other) group 
> produces needs to be technically possible to implement.
>
> As to the specifics ..
>
> I would argue that generated data is NOT collected, as it’s generated.
>
> If you register stephanieperrin.com with us the only elements we are 
> “collecting” that end up in in the “thin” data are:
>
> the domain name string
>
> the nameservers you’re using (and if you don’t specify any we’ll use 
> our own)
>
> All the other elements are NOT collected by the registrar or even the 
> registry from the registrant, they are generated as part of the 
> process of the domain being registered.
>
> [SAH] Michele, some might argue that the registration period is also 
> collected from the registrant and is then used to generate the 
> expiration date at the registry. A case might also be made for status 
> values like clientTransferProhibited etc. I agree completely that 
> generated data is just that – generated.
>
> Scott
>

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