[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll on Purpose

[Carlton Samuels]

Thanks Michele for yet again putting names to concept.  Now, can we have a
up or down on these please?

-Carlton


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On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:10 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <
michele at blacknight.com> wrote:

> David
>
>
>
> I think the key thing is to remember that there is a very significant
> difference between “think” and “thin”.
>
>
>
> While I would happily debate collection, publication and access to
> elements that fall solely under “thick” I cannot and will not when it comes
> to “thin” data, which is what we have been going round in circles with for
> the last couple of weeks.
>
>
>
> Reviewing the thin elements briefly:
>
> -          Domain – well if you don’t want anyone to know what it is why
> on earth did you register it?
>
> -          Registrar – I can’t see any issue with that being disclosed
> and its disclosure actually helps
>
> -          Registry – even if it wasn’t directly published in the whois
> (or its replacement) it’s very Highlander-esque, so it’s not hard to find
>
> -          Nameservers – unless you come up with a magic protocol that
> allows for domain name resolution without actually letting anyone know
> which nameservers you’re using then this needs to be out there
>
> -          Registration date – I can’t see an issue with this
>
> -          Expiry date – ibid
>
> And the rest of it is all just a bunch of EPP status stuff about last
> modified (though not by whom) and that’s about it ..
>
>
>
> Now when we get into thick that’s a whole other kettle of fish ..
>
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> Regards
>
>
>
> Michele
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> *From: *<gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of David Cake <
> dave at davecake.net>
> *Date: *Wednesday 25 January 2017 at 08:25
> *To: *Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
> *Cc: *"gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll on Purpose
>
>
>
> I very much agree with this comment from Stephanie, as did a number of
> other people on the most recent call. This issue - of the difference
> between collection and disclosure as regards purpose - is significant and
> needs discussion in further detail. Though it may seem not that significant
> when we are only talking about ‘thin’ data that is likely going to be
> collected anyway, it becomes a much more significant difference when we
> broaden the range of data elements.
>
>
>
> David
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>
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>
>
> On 21 Jan 2017, at 8:02 am, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.
> utoronto.ca> wrote:
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>
>
> I filled it out, but I am afraid for most of the purposes I could not
> agree.  We do not *collect *data for many of those purposes.  We disclose
> it to people for those purposes, but the purpose of collecting those data
> elements is not for tax collection, trademark enforcement actions, etc.
> This is the conflation issue I have raised repeatedly.
>
> Apologies if I did not make that point clear enough on the call.
>
> Stephanie Perrin
>
>
>
> On 2017-01-20 17:35, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
>
> Please note that our current poll ends in about 24 hours.  So far only 16
> people have responded.
>
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> *From:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-
> pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf
> Of *Lisa Phifer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:50 PM
> *To:* RDS PDP WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll on
> Purpose
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> As directed in the 18 January WG call, this week's new Poll on Purpose is
> now open for WG member participation:
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/SZX9QJZ
>
> A PDF of this poll's questions and notes/recordings of the meeting are
> posted on the 18 January meeting page:https://community.icann.org/x/EbTDAw
>
> This poll will close at *COB Saturday 21 January 2017*.
>
> All WG members are encouraged to participate in this poll to help advance
> deliberation and prepare for next week's meeting.
>
> Best regards,
> Lisa
>
>
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