[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR
Kris Seeburn
seeburn.k at gmail.com
Sat Jul 29 19:21:56 UTC 2017
Have a look at this little search by name and that is not an advanced search. If i do all you would find more than that.
organisation: ORG-ME2-AFRINIC
org-name: Mark Elkins
org-type: ASSOCIATE-MEMBER
country: ZA
address: P O Box 73892
address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
phone: +27128070590
fax-no: +27128075324
admin-c: mje-afrinic <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=mje-afrinic>
tech-c: mje-afrinic <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20mje-afrinic>
mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
person: ELKINS Mark James
nic-hdl: EMJ1-AFRINIC
address: SOUTH AFRICA
address: N/A
address: South Africa
phone: +27128070590
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
person: Mark Elkins
nic-hdl: MJE-AFRINIC
address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
address: P O Box 73892
address: Gauteng
address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
address: South Africa
phone: +27 12 807 0590
phone: +27 82 601 0496
fax-no: +27 12 807 5324
org: org-ps1-afrinic
mnt-by: POSIX-MNT <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
organisation: ORG-PS1-AFRINIC
org-name: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
org-type: EU-PI
country: ZA
address: P.O. Box 73892
address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
phone: +27.826010496
phone: +27.128070590
admin-c: MJE-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC>
admin-c: AEP-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC>
tech-c: MJE-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC>
tech-c: AEP-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC>
mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
mnt-ref: POSIX-MNT
mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
person: Mark Elkins
nic-hdl: MJE-AFRINIC
address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
address: P O Box 73892
address: Gauteng
address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
address: South Africa
phone: +27 12 807 0590
phone: +27 82 601 0496
fax-no: +27 12 807 5324
org: org-ps1-afrinic
mnt-by: POSIX-MNT <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
person: Mark Elkins
nic-hdl: MJE-AFRINIC
address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
address: P O Box 73892
address: Gauteng
address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
address: South Africa
phone: +27 12 807 0590
phone: +27 82 601 0496
fax-no: +27 12 807 5324
org: org-ps1-afrinic
mnt-by: POSIX-MNT <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
organisation: ORG-PS1-AFRINIC
org-name: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
org-type: EU-PI
country: ZA
address: P.O. Box 73892
address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
phone: +27.826010496
phone: +27.128070590
admin-c: MJE-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC>
admin-c: AEP-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC>
tech-c: MJE-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC>
tech-c: AEP-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC>
mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
mnt-ref: POSIX-MNT
mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
mntner: POSIX-MNT
descr: Posix Mantainer
admin-c: MJE-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC>
admin-c: AEP-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC>
tech-c: MJE-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC>
tech-c: AEP-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC>
auth: MD5-PW $1$aXAEScl7$YRQFpDH6e77GRoi3Idtm50
mnt-by: POSIX-MNT <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
person: Alistair Pritchard
address: P O Box 73892
address: Lynnwood Ridge
address: Gauteng
address: 0040
address: ZA
phone: +27 72 262 6233
phone: +27 12 807 0590
fax-no: +27 12 807 5324
nic-hdl: AEP-AFRINIC
mnt-by: POSIX-MNT <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
person: Mark Elkins
nic-hdl: MJE-AFRINIC
address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
address: P O Box 73892
address: Gauteng
address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
address: South Africa
phone: +27 12 807 0590
phone: +27 82 601 0496
fax-no: +27 12 807 5324
org: org-ps1-afrinic
mnt-by: POSIX-MNT <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
organisation: ORG-GKL1-AFRINIC
org-name: Google Kenya Limited
org-type: EU-PI
country: KE
address: ICEA Building, Kenyatta Avenue
address: Nairobi
phone: +1 650 253 4100
phone: +1 650 253 4000
admin-c: MA19-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MA19-AFRINIC>
tech-c: MA19-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MA19-AFRINIC>
mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
mnt-ref: google_kenya
mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
person: Michael Axelrod
nic-hdl: MA19-AFRINIC
address: ICEA Building, Kenyatta Avenue
address: Nairobi
address: Kenya
phone: +1 650 253 4100
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
inetnum: 196.1.4.0 - 196.1.4.255
netname: KENIC
descr: .KE ccTLD Registry
descr: Kenya Network Information Centre (KeNIC)
country: KE
org: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC
admin-c: KNIC1-AfriNIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KNIC1-AfriNIC>
admin-c: PMJ1-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=PMJ1-AFRINIC>
tech-c: KNIC1-AfriNIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20KNIC1-AfriNIC>
tech-c: PMJ1-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20PMJ1-AFRINIC>
status: ASSIGNED PI
mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT>
mnt-lower: KE-NIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KE-NIC>
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
parent: 196.0.0.0 - 196.255.255.255
inet6num: 2001:43f8:0010::/48
netname: KENIC
descr: KENIC
country: KE
org: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC
admin-c: AM17-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AM17-AFRINIC>
tech-c: SE1-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20SE1-AFRINIC>
status: ASSIGNED PI
mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT>
mnt-lower: KE-NIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KE-NIC>
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
parent: 2001:4200::/23
person: Kenya Network Information Centre - KENIC
nic-hdl: KNIC1-AFRINIC
address: CA Complex Waiyaki Way, Opp Kianda School
address: P O Box 1461 - 00606, Nairobi - KE
address: Nairobi - KE
address: Kenya
phone: +254204450058
phone: +254733790073
mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT>
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
organisation: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC
org-name: Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC)
org-type: EU-PI
country: KE
address: Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC)
address: CCK Complex, Waiyaki Way, Opp. Kianda Sch.
address: P. O. Box 1461
address: Nairobi - Kenya 00606
phone: +254204450057
phone: +254204450058
fax-no: +254204450087
admin-c: KNIC1-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KNIC1-AFRINIC>
tech-c: KNIC1-AFRINIC <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20KNIC1-AFRINIC>
mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
mnt-ref: KE-NIC
mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
person: Administrative Manager
address: Waiyaki Way, Opposite Kianda School
address: 1461 - 00606
address: Nairobi
phone: +254 20 4450057
nic-hdl: AM17-AFRINIC
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
person: Kenya Network Information Centre - KENIC
nic-hdl: KNIC1-AFRINIC
address: CA Complex Waiyaki Way, Opp Kianda School
address: P O Box 1461 - 00606, Nairobi - KE
address: Nairobi - KE
address: Kenya
phone: +254204450058
phone: +254733790073
mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT>
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
person: Paul Museeh John
nic-hdl: PMJ1-AFRINIC
address: Technical Manager
address: KENIC
address: Nairobi
address: Kenya
phone: +254725035201
phone: +254 20 4450058
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
person: Systems Engineer
address: Waiyaki Way, Opposite Kianda School
address: 1461 - 00606
address: Nairobi
phone: +254 204450057
nic-hdl: SE1-AFRINIC
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> On Jul 27, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
>
> Kris
>
> I’m sorry, but I still don’t see what you are driving at.
>
> RIRs collect information from LIRs. (My company is an LIR)
>
> LIRs in turn add some information to some records under certain circumstances.
>
> IP addresses and domains are not the same.
> The data that’s collected and how it is collected, managed and published is completely different.
>
> As I previously said, if you can provide concrete examples of why this is germane it would be helpful but so far you haven’t.
>
> Regards
>
> Michele
>
> --
> Mr Michele Neylon
> Blacknight Solutions
> Hosting, Colocation & Domains
> https://www.blacknight.com/ <https://www.blacknight.com/>
> http://blacknight.blog/ <http://blacknight.blog/>
> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072
> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
> Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ <https://michele.blog/>
> Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ <https://ceo.hosting/>
> -------------------------------
> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
>
> From: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 21:02
> To: Michele Neylon <michele at blacknight.com>
> Cc: Richard Leaning <rleaning at ripe.net>, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR
>
> Actually if you look at the policy documents it does not say that you need to provide such and such. But all rir have actually come down to showing the objects and name address contacts just like the Whois. In fact in RIRs you type name of person or company you can have all the details and allocations etc.,
>
> That has been internal I would say just try a Whois in any rir and type in and selects most fields and see what you get. These can also be abused as well as The Whois as a domain name.
>
> Kris
>
> On 26 Jul 2017, at 18:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com <mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:
>
>> Kris
>>
>> I don’t understand your rationale here at all.
>>
>> The data, who it is collected from, how it is managed etc., by RIPE is completely different to how data is handled for domain name registrations.
>>
>> Can you please explain, with specific examples, why you feel this is germane?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Michele
>>
>> --
>> Mr Michele Neylon
>> Blacknight Solutions
>> Hosting, Colocation & Domains
>> https://www.blacknight.com/ <https://www.blacknight.com/>
>> http://blacknight.blog/ <http://blacknight.blog/>
>> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072
>> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
>> Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ <https://michele.blog/>
>> Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ <https://ceo.hosting/>
>> -------------------------------
>> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
>> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
>>
>> From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 15:31
>> To: Richard Leaning <rleaning at ripe.net <mailto:rleaning at ripe.net>>
>> Cc: "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR
>>
>> Hi dick
>>
>> I personally feel we need to get some feedback from nro/aso because whilst we are visiting the fields some of the same are used on the iana with the rir. Since you are from ripe you would know how much info is collected and discussed displayed and how much of the are inaccurate and how much of these are also affecting the work we are doing on the group. I think we need to investigate this line as well to avoid duplication process.
>>
>> It's food for thought but I think it's worth looking at. Perhaps between those who are part of rir we could look at what we do and bring our bits here as a review. Else I would push it to nro/aso.
>>
>> I personally feel when we are looking at the rdp a revamped Whois the RIRs are also concerned.
>>
>> That's my two cents but I feel we can make a better deal in one go than having too many committees.
>>
>> Kris
>>
>> On 26 Jul 2017, at 17:01, Richard Leaning <rleaning at ripe.net <mailto:rleaning at ripe.net>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kris,
>>>
>>> Am part of this working group and also work for an RIR. If the WG feel the need to explore this more then am helping to help.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>> Richard Leaning
>>> External Relations
>>> RIPE NCC
>>>
>>> On 25 Jul 2017, at 05:38, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Amr
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we can drop same questions to the nro or aso. The Whois is also revealing. I know it may be outside a bit of scope but if you do a Whois not for domain but company name or individual names you could mine that for ip and emails.
>>>>
>>>> I would believe some of these questions pertain to them also. Just a suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Kris
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Jul 2017, at 01:48, Amr Elsadr <amr.elsadr at icann.org <mailto:amr.elsadr at icann.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi again, with apologies. This time, with the file attached.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amr
>>>>>
>>>>> From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Amr Elsadr <amr.elsadr at icann.org <mailto:amr.elsadr at icann.org>>
>>>>> Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 9:12 PM
>>>>> To: "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>>>>> Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Working Group Members,
>>>>>
>>>>> Attached is a preliminary compilation of the responses received to-date from ccTLD registry operators, fashioned after public comment review tools used by GNSO WGs. You will also find the file posted on the WG wiki here:https://community.icann.org/x/rVjwAw <https://community.icann.org/x/rVjwAw>
>>>>>
>>>>> So far, we have only received responses from 3 ccTLDs:
>>>>>
>>>>> .ME Registry
>>>>> IE Domain Registry (IEDR)
>>>>> Canadian Internet Registration Authority
>>>>>
>>>>> The WG Leadership Team and staff are working together to follow-up with ccTLDs who have been contacted, but have not yet responded. The WG will be notified as additional responses are received.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amr
>>>>> <Review Tool – Next Generation RDS PDP Working Group questions to ccTLDs.docx>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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Kris Seeburn
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www.linkedin.com/in/kseeburn/ <http://www.linkedin.com/in/kseeburn/>
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