[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR

Thu Jul 27 12:14:06 UTC 2017

Kris

I’m sorry, but I still don’t see what you are driving at.

RIRs collect information from LIRs. (My company is an LIR)

LIRs in turn add some information to some records under certain circumstances.

IP addresses and domains are not the same.
The data that’s collected and how it is collected, managed and published is completely different.

As I previously said, if you can provide concrete examples of why this is germane it would be helpful but so far you haven’t.

Regards

Michele

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From: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 21:02
To: Michele Neylon <michele at blacknight.com>
Cc: Richard Leaning <rleaning at ripe.net>, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR

Actually if you look at the policy documents it does not say that you need to provide such and such. But all rir have actually come down to showing the objects and name address contacts just like the Whois. In fact in RIRs you type name of person or company you can have all the details and allocations etc.,

That has been internal I would say just try a Whois in any rir and type in and selects most fields and see what you get. These can also be abused as well as The Whois as a domain name.

Kris

On 26 Jul 2017, at 18:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:
Kris

I don’t understand your rationale here at all.

The data, who it is collected from, how it is managed etc., by RIPE is completely different to how data is handled for domain name registrations.

Can you please explain, with specific examples, why you feel this is germane?

Regards

Michele

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From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 15:31
To: Richard Leaning <rleaning at ripe.net<mailto:rleaning at ripe.net>>
Cc: "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR

Hi dick

I personally feel we need to get some feedback from nro/aso because whilst we are visiting the fields some of the same are used on the iana with the rir. Since you are from ripe you would know how much info is collected and discussed displayed and how much of the are inaccurate and how much of these are also affecting the work we are doing on the group. I think we need to investigate this line as well to avoid duplication process.

It's food for thought but I think it's worth looking at. Perhaps between those who are part of rir we could look at what we do and bring our bits here as a review. Else I would push it to nro/aso.

I personally feel when we are looking at the rdp a revamped Whois the RIRs are also concerned.

That's my two cents but I feel we can make a better deal in one go than having too many committees.

Kris

On 26 Jul 2017, at 17:01, Richard Leaning <rleaning at ripe.net<mailto:rleaning at ripe.net>> wrote:
Hi Kris,

Am part of this working group and also work for an RIR. If the WG feel the need to explore this more then am helping to help.

Cheers

Dick

Richard Leaning
External Relations
RIPE NCC

On 25 Jul 2017, at 05:38, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Amr

Perhaps we can drop same questions to the nro or aso. The Whois is also revealing. I know it may be outside a bit of scope but if you do a Whois not for domain but company name or individual names you could mine that for ip and emails.

I would believe some of these questions pertain to them also. Just a suggestion.

Kris

On 25 Jul 2017, at 01:48, Amr Elsadr <amr.elsadr at icann.org<mailto:amr.elsadr at icann.org>> wrote:
Hi again, with apologies. This time, with the file attached.

Thanks again.

Amr

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Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 9:12 PM
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Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR

Dear Working Group Members,

Attached is a preliminary compilation of the responses received to-date from ccTLD registry operators, fashioned after public comment review tools used by GNSO WGs. You will also find the file posted on the WG wiki here: https://community.icann.org/x/rVjwAw

So far, we have only received responses from 3 ccTLDs:

  *   .ME Registry
  *   IE Domain Registry (IEDR)
  *   Canadian Internet Registration Authority

The WG Leadership Team and staff are working together to follow-up with ccTLDs who have been contacted, but have not yet responded. The WG will be notified as additional responses are received.

Thanks.

Amr
<Review Tool – Next Generation RDS PDP Working Group questions to ccTLDs.docx>
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