[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR
Greg Shatan
gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Sat Jul 29 19:59:31 UTC 2017
Maybe it means they have a GDPR/privacy law issue as well.... However, that
doesn't really help us directly.
It would be interesting to know if they have contemplated it yet.
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:37 PM Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
wrote:
> Sure. And if I search in the land registry I get my own name and
> address. What does that have to do with this WG?
>
> A
>
> --
> Andrew Sullivan
> Please excuse my clumbsy thums.
>
> On Jul 29, 2017, at 15:21, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Have a look at this little search by name and that is not an advanced
> search. If i do all you would find more than that.
>
> *organisation*: ORG-ME2-AFRINIC
> org-name: Mark Elkins
> org-type: ASSOCIATE-MEMBER
> country: ZA
> address: P O Box 73892
> address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
> phone: +27128070590
> fax-no: +27128075324
> admin-c: mje-afrinic
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=mje-afrinic>
> tech-c: mje-afrinic
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20mje-afrinic>
> mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *person*: ELKINS Mark James
> nic-hdl: EMJ1-AFRINIC
> address: SOUTH AFRICA
> address: N/A
> address: South Africa
> phone: +27128070590
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *person*: Mark Elkins
> nic-hdl: MJE-AFRINIC
> address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
> address: P O Box 73892
> address: Gauteng
> address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
> address: South Africa
> phone: +27 12 807 0590
> phone: +27 82 601 0496
> fax-no: +27 12 807 5324
> org: org-ps1-afrinic
> mnt-by: POSIX-MNT
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *organisation*: ORG-PS1-AFRINIC
> org-name: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
> org-type: EU-PI
> country: ZA
> address: P.O. Box 73892
> address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
> phone: +27.826010496
> phone: +27.128070590
> admin-c: MJE-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC>
> admin-c: AEP-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC>
> tech-c: MJE-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC>
> tech-c: AEP-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC>
> mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> mnt-ref: POSIX-MNT
> mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *person*: Mark Elkins
> nic-hdl: MJE-AFRINIC
> address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
> address: P O Box 73892
> address: Gauteng
> address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
> address: South Africa
> phone: +27 12 807 0590
> phone: +27 82 601 0496
> fax-no: +27 12 807 5324
> org: org-ps1-afrinic
> mnt-by: POSIX-MNT
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
>
>
>
> *person*: Mark Elkins
> nic-hdl: MJE-AFRINIC
> address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
> address: P O Box 73892
> address: Gauteng
> address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
> address: South Africa
> phone: +27 12 807 0590
> phone: +27 82 601 0496
> fax-no: +27 12 807 5324
> org: org-ps1-afrinic
> mnt-by: POSIX-MNT
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *organisation*: ORG-PS1-AFRINIC
> org-name: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
> org-type: EU-PI
> country: ZA
> address: P.O. Box 73892
> address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
> phone: +27.826010496
> phone: +27.128070590
> admin-c: MJE-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC>
> admin-c: AEP-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC>
> tech-c: MJE-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC>
> tech-c: AEP-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC>
> mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> mnt-ref: POSIX-MNT
> mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
>
>
> *mntner*: POSIX-MNT
> descr: Posix Mantainer
> admin-c: MJE-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC>
> admin-c: AEP-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC>
> tech-c: MJE-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC>
> tech-c: AEP-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC>
> auth: MD5-PW $1$aXAEScl7$YRQFpDH6e77GRoi3Idtm50
> mnt-by: POSIX-MNT
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *person*: Alistair Pritchard
> address: P O Box 73892
> address: Lynnwood Ridge
> address: Gauteng
> address: 0040
> address: ZA
> phone: +27 72 262 6233
> phone: +27 12 807 0590
> fax-no: +27 12 807 5324
> nic-hdl: AEP-AFRINIC
> mnt-by: POSIX-MNT
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *person*: Mark Elkins
> nic-hdl: MJE-AFRINIC
> address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd
> address: P O Box 73892
> address: Gauteng
> address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040
> address: South Africa
> phone: +27 12 807 0590
> phone: +27 82 601 0496
> fax-no: +27 12 807 5324
> org: org-ps1-afrinic
> mnt-by: POSIX-MNT
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT>
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
>
>
> *organisation*: ORG-GKL1-AFRINIC
> org-name: Google Kenya Limited
> org-type: EU-PI
> country: KE
> address: ICEA Building, Kenyatta Avenue
> address: Nairobi
> phone: +1 650 253 4100
> phone: +1 650 253 4000
> admin-c: MA19-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MA19-AFRINIC>
> tech-c: MA19-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MA19-AFRINIC>
> mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> mnt-ref: google_kenya
> mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *person*: Michael Axelrod
> nic-hdl: MA19-AFRINIC
> address: ICEA Building, Kenyatta Avenue
> address: Nairobi
> address: Kenya
> phone: +1 650 253 4100
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
>
>
> *inetnum*: 196.1.4.0 - 196.1.4.255
> netname: KENIC
> descr: .KE ccTLD Registry
> descr: Kenya Network Information Centre (KeNIC)
> country: KE
> org: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC
> admin-c: KNIC1-AfriNIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KNIC1-AfriNIC>
> admin-c: PMJ1-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=PMJ1-AFRINIC>
> tech-c: KNIC1-AfriNIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20KNIC1-AfriNIC>
> tech-c: PMJ1-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20PMJ1-AFRINIC>
> status: ASSIGNED PI
> mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT>
> mnt-lower: KE-NIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KE-NIC>
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> parent: 196.0.0.0 - 196.255.255.255
> *inet6num*: 2001:43f8:0010::/48
> netname: KENIC
> descr: KENIC
> country: KE
> org: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC
> admin-c: AM17-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AM17-AFRINIC>
> tech-c: SE1-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20SE1-AFRINIC>
> status: ASSIGNED PI
> mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT>
> mnt-lower: KE-NIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KE-NIC>
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> parent: 2001:4200::/23
> *person*: Kenya Network Information Centre - KENIC
> nic-hdl: KNIC1-AFRINIC
> address: CA Complex Waiyaki Way, Opp Kianda School
> address: P O Box 1461 - 00606, Nairobi - KE
> address: Nairobi - KE
> address: Kenya
> phone: +254204450058
> phone: +254733790073
> mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT>
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *organisation*: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC
> org-name: Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC)
> org-type: EU-PI
> country: KE
> address: Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC)
> address: CCK Complex, Waiyaki Way, Opp. Kianda Sch.
> address: P. O. Box 1461
> address: Nairobi - Kenya 00606
> phone: +254204450057
> phone: +254204450058
> fax-no: +254204450087
> admin-c: KNIC1-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KNIC1-AFRINIC>
> tech-c: KNIC1-AFRINIC
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20KNIC1-AFRINIC>
> mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> mnt-ref: KE-NIC
> mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *person*: Administrative Manager
> address: Waiyaki Way, Opposite Kianda School
> address: 1461 - 00606
> address: Nairobi
> phone: +254 20 4450057
> nic-hdl: AM17-AFRINIC
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *person*: Kenya Network Information Centre - KENIC
> nic-hdl: KNIC1-AFRINIC
> address: CA Complex Waiyaki Way, Opp Kianda School
> address: P O Box 1461 - 00606, Nairobi - KE
> address: Nairobi - KE
> address: Kenya
> phone: +254204450058
> phone: +254733790073
> mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
> <https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT>
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *person*: Paul Museeh John
> nic-hdl: PMJ1-AFRINIC
> address: Technical Manager
> address: KENIC
> address: Nairobi
> address: Kenya
> phone: +254725035201
> phone: +254 20 4450058
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
> *person*: Systems Engineer
> address: Waiyaki Way, Opposite Kianda School
> address: 1461 - 00606
> address: Nairobi
> phone: +254 204450057
> nic-hdl: SE1-AFRINIC
> source: AFRINIC # Filtered
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <
> michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
>
> Kris
>
> I’m sorry, but I still don’t see what you are driving at.
>
> RIRs collect information from LIRs. (My company is an LIR)
>
> LIRs in turn add some information to some records under certain
> circumstances.
>
> IP addresses and domains are not the same.
> The data that’s collected and how it is collected, managed and published
> is completely different.
>
> As I previously said, if you can provide concrete examples of why this is
> germane it would be helpful but so far you haven’t.
>
> Regards
>
> Michele
>
> --
> Mr Michele Neylon
> Blacknight Solutions
> Hosting, Colocation & Domains
> https://www.blacknight.com/
> http://blacknight.blog/
> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072
> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
> Personal blog: https://michele.blog/
> Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
> -------------------------------
> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
>
> *From: *Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 21:02
> *To: *Michele Neylon <michele at blacknight.com>
> *Cc: *Richard Leaning <rleaning at ripe.net>, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD
> Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR
>
> Actually if you look at the policy documents it does not say that you need
> to provide such and such. But all rir have actually come down to showing
> the objects and name address contacts just like the Whois. In fact in RIRs
> you type name of person or company you can have all the details and
> allocations etc.,
>
> That has been internal I would say just try a Whois in any rir and type in
> and selects most fields and see what you get. These can also be abused as
> well as The Whois as a domain name.
>
> Kris
>
>
> On 26 Jul 2017, at 18:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <
> michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
>
> Kris
>
> I don’t understand your rationale here at all.
>
> The data, who it is collected from, how it is managed etc., by RIPE is
> completely different to how data is handled for domain name registrations.
>
> Can you please explain, with specific examples, why you feel this is
> germane?
>
> Regards
>
> Michele
>
> --
> Mr Michele Neylon
> Blacknight Solutions
> Hosting, Colocation & Domains
> https://www.blacknight.com/
> http://blacknight.blog/
> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072
> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
> Personal blog: https://michele.blog/
> Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
> -------------------------------
> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
>
> *From: *<gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Kris Seeburn <
> seeburn.k at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 15:31
> *To: *Richard Leaning <rleaning at ripe.net>
> *Cc: *"gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD
> Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR
>
> Hi dick
>
> I personally feel we need to get some feedback from nro/aso because whilst
> we are visiting the fields some of the same are used on the iana with the
> rir. Since you are from ripe you would know how much info is collected and
> discussed displayed and how much of the are inaccurate and how much of
> these are also affecting the work we are doing on the group. I think we
> need to investigate this line as well to avoid duplication process.
>
> It's food for thought but I think it's worth looking at. Perhaps between
> those who are part of rir we could look at what we do and bring our bits
> here as a review. Else I would push it to nro/aso.
>
> I personally feel when w
>
>
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