[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPROTANT - Action Items and Notes from Next-Generation RDS PDP Working Group Call - 17 May 2017

[Chen, Tim]

since this is the ICANN RDS PDP we will obviously have to spend a few weeks
defining "legitimate" before I can respond to your question :)

I'm going to agree to disagree with Chris and Volker on this.

Having the whois data sets together can specifically be used to help combat
spam, phishing, malware and other forms of abuse.  Many people in this
forum have pointed out real-life examples of how they do that so I won't
repeat those here.

These are the same benefits to having a  "parallel database" where in fact
no such database actually exists today bc each individual registrar and
registry is in possession of only a small fraction of the data (Verisign
and GoDaddy possibly excepted here).   DomainTools makes no claim to 'be
right', that is what your customer said.  Our data is accurate to the data
that was at the registry or registrar at the time the record was seen.
Basically the same language here that we all agreed on for 'authoritative'
last night.  RDS is going to have the exact same issue.  Right?  Right.

Which leaves the resale argument among the four that Volker stated.   I
doubt this is the venue to debate the merits of business models based on
DNS data (of which there are more than I can count), but I am not opposed
to having that discussion in the right forum.

Another +1 to Michael P's statement.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org> wrote:

> On 17/5/17 9:40 am, Michael Peddemors wrote:
> > Yes, this is the common argument, however IMHO this is a red herring..
> > There are more efficient ways for 'harvesters' to gain data, and
> > others way to prevent such abuse..
> >
> > Again, IMHO this argument is another case of impacting the many
> > legitimate users, for the sake of a few bad apples..
> >
> > And I havent' seen any arguments yet, of a case scenario which can't
> > be addressed by other means..
>
> So to reverse this, what are the *legitimate* purposes of harvesting?
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