[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPROTANT - Action Items and Notes from Next-Generation RDS PDP Working Group Call - 17 May 2017

Michael Peddemors michael at linuxmagic.com
Wed May 17 19:00:42 UTC 2017


On 17-05-17 10:46 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
> On 17/5/17 9:40 am, Michael Peddemors wrote:
>> Yes, this is the common argument, however IMHO this is a red herring..
>> There are more efficient ways for 'harvesters' to gain data, and
>> others way to prevent such abuse..
>>
>> Again, IMHO this argument is another case of impacting the many
>> legitimate users, for the sake of a few bad apples..
>>
>> And I havent' seen any arguments yet, of a case scenario which can't
>> be addressed by other means..
>
> So to reverse this, what are the *legitimate* purposes of harvesting?

Who said anything about arguing for 'harvesting' as a legitimate 
purpose?  I didn't, and even pointed out that there are way(s) to target 
harvesters..

I was pointing out the legitimate purposes of accessing the data..

And many of those cases have already been stated, I could re-iterate 
those arguments, and give examples of why 'we' need to access the data, 
but again, 'harvesting' is different than access.

Arguing that we 'have to stop harvesters' by denying access to the data 
for legitimate purposes was the original point.  There are other means 
to target those perpetrators..  But it shouldn't be used as a 'scary 
boogeyman' exists, so everyone lock your doors.

To paraphrase.. "Just because criminals exist, doesn't mean that 
civilians can't walk the street".  That is a 'gut reaction' of fear, and 
not a solution.  Better policing, targeting criminals, or carry a big 
stick solves that :)

Nuff said.. as I said, lets' place case scenario's and argument each on 
their merits.. and not react to a 'undefinable' threat..






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