[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPROTANT - Action Items and Notes from Next-Generation RDS PDP Working Group Call - 17 May 2017

[Greg Shatan]

One way to deal with harvesters is through a licensing set-up.  There are
legitimate reasons to have the full dataset, and these should be
accommodated in a controlled environment.  Preventing bad harvesters is
worthwhile, prevent all harvesting is another issue entirely....


*Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428
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On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Michael Peddemors <michael at linuxmagic.com>
wrote:

> On 17-05-17 10:46 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>
>> On 17/5/17 9:40 am, Michael Peddemors wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, this is the common argument, however IMHO this is a red herring..
>>> There are more efficient ways for 'harvesters' to gain data, and
>>> others way to prevent such abuse..
>>>
>>> Again, IMHO this argument is another case of impacting the many
>>> legitimate users, for the sake of a few bad apples..
>>>
>>> And I havent' seen any arguments yet, of a case scenario which can't
>>> be addressed by other means..
>>>
>>
>> So to reverse this, what are the *legitimate* purposes of harvesting?
>>
>
> Who said anything about arguing for 'harvesting' as a legitimate purpose?
> I didn't, and even pointed out that there are way(s) to target harvesters..
>
> I was pointing out the legitimate purposes of accessing the data..
>
> And many of those cases have already been stated, I could re-iterate those
> arguments, and give examples of why 'we' need to access the data, but
> again, 'harvesting' is different than access.
>
> Arguing that we 'have to stop harvesters' by denying access to the data
> for legitimate purposes was the original point.  There are other means to
> target those perpetrators..  But it shouldn't be used as a 'scary
> boogeyman' exists, so everyone lock your doors.
>
> To paraphrase.. "Just because criminals exist, doesn't mean that civilians
> can't walk the street".  That is a 'gut reaction' of fear, and not a
> solution.  Better policing, targeting criminals, or carry a big stick
> solves that :)
>
> Nuff said.. as I said, lets' place case scenario's and argument each on
> their merits.. and not react to a 'undefinable' threat..
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