[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPROTANT - Action Items and Notes from Next-Generation RDS PDP Working Group Call - 17 May 2017

[Stephanie Perrin]

+1

Stephanie


On 2017-05-17 17:38, Greg Shatan wrote:
> One way to deal with harvesters is through a licensing set-up.  There 
> are legitimate reasons to have the full dataset, and these should be 
> accommodated in a controlled environment.  Preventing bad harvesters 
> is worthwhile, prevent all harvesting is another issue entirely....
>
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> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Michael Peddemors 
> <michael at linuxmagic.com <mailto:michael at linuxmagic.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 17-05-17 10:46 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>
>         On 17/5/17 9:40 am, Michael Peddemors wrote:
>
>             Yes, this is the common argument, however IMHO this is a
>             red herring..
>             There are more efficient ways for 'harvesters' to gain
>             data, and
>             others way to prevent such abuse..
>
>             Again, IMHO this argument is another case of impacting the
>             many
>             legitimate users, for the sake of a few bad apples..
>
>             And I havent' seen any arguments yet, of a case scenario
>             which can't
>             be addressed by other means..
>
>
>         So to reverse this, what are the *legitimate* purposes of
>         harvesting?
>
>
>     Who said anything about arguing for 'harvesting' as a legitimate
>     purpose?  I didn't, and even pointed out that there are way(s) to
>     target harvesters..
>
>     I was pointing out the legitimate purposes of accessing the data..
>
>     And many of those cases have already been stated, I could
>     re-iterate those arguments, and give examples of why 'we' need to
>     access the data, but again, 'harvesting' is different than access.
>
>     Arguing that we 'have to stop harvesters' by denying access to the
>     data for legitimate purposes was the original point. There are
>     other means to target those perpetrators..  But it shouldn't be
>     used as a 'scary boogeyman' exists, so everyone lock your doors.
>
>     To paraphrase.. "Just because criminals exist, doesn't mean that
>     civilians can't walk the street".  That is a 'gut reaction' of
>     fear, and not a solution.  Better policing, targeting criminals,
>     or carry a big stick solves that :)
>
>     Nuff said.. as I said, lets' place case scenario's and argument
>     each on their merits.. and not react to a 'undefinable' threat..
>
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