[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPROTANT - Action Items and Notes from Next-Generation RDS PDP Working Group Call - 17 May 2017

Thu May 18 08:51:16 UTC 2017

I would also be wary about that. Selling data that we do not own the 
rights to is even more problematic than publishing it. No registrant 
ever agreed to have his data used as a commodity.

Am 17.05.2017 um 23:38 schrieb Greg Shatan:
> One way to deal with harvesters is through a licensing set-up.  There 
> are legitimate reasons to have the full dataset, and these should be 
> accommodated in a controlled environment.  Preventing bad harvesters 
> is worthwhile, prevent all harvesting is another issue entirely....
>
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>
> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Michael Peddemors 
> <michael at linuxmagic.com <mailto:michael at linuxmagic.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 17-05-17 10:46 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>
>         On 17/5/17 9:40 am, Michael Peddemors wrote:
>
>             Yes, this is the common argument, however IMHO this is a
>             red herring..
>             There are more efficient ways for 'harvesters' to gain
>             data, and
>             others way to prevent such abuse..
>
>             Again, IMHO this argument is another case of impacting the
>             many
>             legitimate users, for the sake of a few bad apples..
>
>             And I havent' seen any arguments yet, of a case scenario
>             which can't
>             be addressed by other means..
>
>
>         So to reverse this, what are the *legitimate* purposes of
>         harvesting?
>
>
>     Who said anything about arguing for 'harvesting' as a legitimate
>     purpose?  I didn't, and even pointed out that there are way(s) to
>     target harvesters..
>
>     I was pointing out the legitimate purposes of accessing the data..
>
>     And many of those cases have already been stated, I could
>     re-iterate those arguments, and give examples of why 'we' need to
>     access the data, but again, 'harvesting' is different than access.
>
>     Arguing that we 'have to stop harvesters' by denying access to the
>     data for legitimate purposes was the original point. There are
>     other means to target those perpetrators..  But it shouldn't be
>     used as a 'scary boogeyman' exists, so everyone lock your doors.
>
>     To paraphrase.. "Just because criminals exist, doesn't mean that
>     civilians can't walk the street".  That is a 'gut reaction' of
>     fear, and not a solution.  Better policing, targeting criminals,
>     or carry a big stick solves that :)
>
>     Nuff said.. as I said, lets' place case scenario's and argument
>     each on their merits.. and not react to a 'undefinable' threat..
>
>
>
>
>
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