[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Meetings/Conversations with Data Protection and Privacy Commissioners

[Greg Shatan]

"Over-collection" cannot be defined without defining "needs."

We seem to be going back to "first principles" and the reasons (or "needs")
that cause WHOIS to exist.  If one defines the needs or reasons narrowly
enough, voila -- "over-collection."

Greg

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:48 PM, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <
gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> wrote:

> "As for privacy proxy solving the problem, it does not.  Over collection
> is not solved by providing a proxy in the third party disclosure
> mechanism.  It is still over-collection, disproportionate to needs."
>
> I fundamentally disagree because the purpose of ICANN is not the mere
> facilitation of domain from registry to registrant. The purpose is the
> security and stability of the internet and that means I have a need to
> verify who is connecting to my network and have a means of contacting them.
> That point has never been made, to my knowledge, to them.
>
> The point that removing that ability of me being able to contact domain
> owners does far MORE to REDUCE the privacy of the registrants than does
> publishing said information.  We talk often about verification out-of-band
> for sensitive communications. How can I do that without a phone number?
>
> I will loudly and vigorously argue that the path advocated will make the
> problem FAR worse and not better. Hopefully we don't get to the point where
> I have actual data to prove that.
>
> On 9/26/2017 1:34 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>
> As for privacy proxy solving the problem, it does not.  Over collection is
> not solved by providing a proxy in the third party disclosure mechanism.
> It is still over-collection, disproportionate to needs.
>
>
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>
> John Bambenek
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