[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Meetings/Conversations with Data Protection and Privacy Commissioners

[Volker Greimann]

Needs are defined by the data controller, not potential third parties. 
If the data controller has no justifiable need for the data, then it 
becomes over-collection.

Best,

Volker


Am 26.09.2017 um 21:22 schrieb Greg Shatan:
> "Over-collection" cannot be defined without defining "needs."
>
> We seem to be going back to "first principles" and the reasons (or 
> "needs") that cause WHOIS to exist.  If one defines the needs or 
> reasons narrowly enough, voila -- "over-collection."
>
> Greg
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:48 PM, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg 
> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>     "As for privacy proxy solving the problem, it does not. Over
>     collection is not solved by providing a proxy in the third party
>     disclosure mechanism.  It is still over-collection,
>     disproportionate to needs."
>
>     I fundamentally disagree because the purpose of ICANN is not the
>     mere facilitation of domain from registry to registrant. The
>     purpose is the security and stability of the internet and that
>     means I have a need to verify who is connecting to my network and
>     have a means of contacting them. That point has never been made,
>     to my knowledge, to them.
>
>     The point that removing that ability of me being able to contact
>     domain owners does far MORE to REDUCE the privacy of the
>     registrants than does publishing said information.  We talk often
>     about verification out-of-band for sensitive communications. How
>     can I do that without a phone number?
>
>     I will loudly and vigorously argue that the path advocated will
>     make the problem FAR worse and not better. Hopefully we don't get
>     to the point where I have actual data to prove that.
>
>
>     On 9/26/2017 1:34 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>     As for privacy proxy solving the problem, it does not.  Over
>>     collection is not solved by providing a proxy in the third party
>>     disclosure mechanism.  It is still over-collection,
>>     disproportionate to needs.
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