[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Meetings/Conversations with Data Protection and Privacy Commissioners

Wed Sep 27 16:19:00 UTC 2017

You mean something like this:

ubuntu at ip-172-30-0-207:~/.ssh$ whois 99.198.96.122

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https://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=99.198.96.122?showDetails=true&showARIN=false&showNonArinTopLevelNet=false&ext=netref2
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NetRange:       99.198.96.0 - 99.198.127.255
CIDR:           99.198.96.0/19
NetName:        SINGLEHOP
NetHandle:      NET-99-198-96-0-1
Parent:         NET99 (NET-99-0-0-0-0)
NetType:        Direct Allocation
OriginAS:       AS32475
Organization:   SingleHop, Inc. (SINGL-8)
RegDate:        2008-08-14
Updated:        2012-03-02
Ref:            https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-99-198-96-0-1

OrgName:        SingleHop, Inc.
OrgId:          SINGL-8
Address:        500 West Madison Street
Address:        Suite 801
City:           Chicago
StateProv:      IL
PostalCode:     60661
Country:        US
RegDate:        2007-03-07
Updated:        2017-01-28
Comment:        http://www.singlehop.com/
Ref:            https://whois.arin.net/rest/org/SINGL-8

ReferralServer:  rwhois://rwhois.singlehop.net:4321

OrgNOCHandle: NETWO1546-ARIN
OrgNOCName:   Network Operations
OrgNOCPhone:  +1-866-817-2811
OrgNOCEmail:  netops at singlehop.com
OrgNOCRef:    https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NETWO1546-ARIN

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE2492-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Abuse Department
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-866-817-2811
OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse at singlehop.com
OrgAbuseRef:    https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE2492-ARIN

OrgTechHandle: NETWO1546-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Network Operations
OrgTechPhone:  +1-866-817-2811
OrgTechEmail:  netops at singlehop.com
OrgTechRef:    https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NETWO1546-ARIN

RTechHandle: NETWO1546-ARIN
RTechName:   Network Operations
RTechPhone:  +1-866-817-2811
RTechEmail:  netops at singlehop.com
RTechRef:    https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NETWO1546-ARIN

RAbuseHandle: NETWO1546-ARIN
RAbuseName:   Network Operations
RAbusePhone:  +1-866-817-2811
RAbuseEmail:  netops at singlehop.com
RAbuseRef:    https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NETWO1546-ARIN

RNOCHandle: NETWO1546-ARIN
RNOCName:   Network Operations
RNOCPhone:  +1-866-817-2811
RNOCEmail:  netops at singlehop.com
RNOCRef:    https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NETWO1546-ARIN

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Found a referral to rwhois.singlehop.net:4321.

%rwhois V-1.5:003eff:00 rwhois.singlehop.com (by Network Solutions, Inc.
V-1.5.9.5)
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On 09/27/2017 04:12 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
>
> So when will you start advocating the collection and publication of
> WHOIS for internet users? Because they would be connecting to your
> network all the time...
>
> Volker
>
>
> Am 26.09.2017 um 20:48 schrieb John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:
>>
>> "As for privacy proxy solving the problem, it does not.  Over
>> collection is not solved by providing a proxy in the third party
>> disclosure mechanism.  It is still over-collection, disproportionate
>> to needs."
>>
>> I fundamentally disagree because the purpose of ICANN is not the mere
>> facilitation of domain from registry to registrant. The purpose is
>> the security and stability of the internet and that means I have a
>> need to verify who is connecting to my network and have a means of
>> contacting them. That point has never been made, to my knowledge, to
>> them.
>>
>> The point that removing that ability of me being able to contact
>> domain owners does far MORE to REDUCE the privacy of the registrants
>> than does publishing said information.  We talk often about
>> verification out-of-band for sensitive communications. How can I do
>> that without a phone number?
>>
>> I will loudly and vigorously argue that the path advocated will make
>> the problem FAR worse and not better. Hopefully we don't get to the
>> point where I have actual data to prove that.
>>
>>
>> On 9/26/2017 1:34 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>> As for privacy proxy solving the problem, it does not.  Over
>>> collection is not solved by providing a proxy in the third party
>>> disclosure mechanism.  It is still over-collection, disproportionate
>>> to needs.
>>
>> -- 
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>> John Bambenek
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