[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Discriminatory rds Data Privacy Standards
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Sun Mar 11 18:32:39 UTC 2018
I think the summary report (final report) dealt with it. I believe you
will find that report in our repository.
Stephanie
On 2018-03-11 14:30, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg wrote:
> For those not present, can you summarize or at least point to a
> document we can read? Stating that something was discussed somewhere
> gives me little to go on as to what information you’d like me to know.
>
> --
> John Bambenek
>
> On Mar 11, 2018, at 13:14, Michele Neylon - Blacknight
> <michele at blacknight.com <mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:
>
>> This issue was discussed in depth during the PPSAI (proxy privacy) PDP.
>>
>> --
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>> Mr Michele Neylon
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>> *From: *gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Volker
>> Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>>
>> *Date: *Sunday 11 March 2018 at 11:24
>> *To: *sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com
>> <mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>>
>> *Cc: *RDS WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Discriminatory rds Data Privacy
>> Standards
>>
>> Please provide a workable, reasonable method of identifying the
>> domain names used in commercial manner amongst the existing hundreds
>> of million registered domains. Please also identify how this
>> determination can be updated automatically once the use of a domain
>> name changes.
>>
>> The fact is that commercial use is content. ICANN does not deal with
>> content except for very small and specific areas. ICANN and
>> registrars have no relationship with the content that is published
>> under a domain name. We certainly have no control over specific uses.
>>
>> These details belong on the websites, as is provided in the laws in
>> Europe and other jurisdictions. There is no need to duplicate this in
>> whois.
>>
>> Volker
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9. Mar 2018, at 07:49, sivasubramanian muthusamy
>> <6.internet at gmail.com<mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Private persons (including private persons in a public career or
>> a career of public exposure) need privacy. Why is this notion
>> extended to protect online commercial entities of varying ethical
>> standards? Does Yourairlinereservations.onlinecommerce have a
>> right to privacy of its Registrant data?
>>
>> Their customers don't look for contact information from RDS, but
>> in the entity's commercial web site, but the information is not
>> there. Many online entities operate from behind layers of veil
>> that separate them from customers and enable them to carry on
>> their commercial activity with minimal or non-existent
>> accountability.
>>
>> Yourairlinereservations.onlinecommerce sells millions of air
>> tickets but does not seem to have a building somewhere, and/or
>> does not have an employee with a
>> name. Yourairlinereservations.onlinecommerce takes your money,
>> takes your information without disclosing any of its own, and
>> does not have a phone number or answer email messages (operates
>> through call centers, answers email messages by templates) when
>> you are stranded Midway with a ticket that doesn't work.
>> Yourcasino takes your credit card number, yourpharmacy takes your
>> money and medical data, yourholiday owns your passport, and all
>> these entities don't have an email address, phone number or a
>> building with a person.
>>
>> Could we do away with this notion of (Registrant)data privacy
>> where it concerns an online entity that carries out commercial
>> monetary transactions online? That would require us to
>> discriminate between private persons and e-commerce entities,
>> which would be a complex process - agreed. Nevertheless, could we
>> think about this?
>>
>> Sivasubramanian M
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