[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next Gen RDS - Update from Leadership Team
Volker Greimann
vgreimann at key-systems.net
Thu Oct 11 14:57:52 UTC 2018
Or find an insider willing to carry your torch. And if there is no such
person, maybe reconsider your torch.
Volker
Am 11.10.2018 um 16:25 schrieb John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:
> “If you don’t like being an outsider, you have to play by our rules
> and become an insider.”
>
> And yeah, I can write a letter to my legislator. That doesn’t make me
> a Senator.
>
> --
> John Bambenek
>
> On Oct 11, 2018, at 09:14, Michele Neylon - Blacknight
> <michele at blacknight.com <mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:
>
>> Again. You are wrong.
>>
>> You, like anyone else, can join any number of ICANN groups.
>> You choose not to.
>>
>> That’s your choice.
>>
>> Now you can try to twist that around so that you can tell people how
>> you’ve been excluded, but the reality is that you haven’t – you’ve
>> chosen that path.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Michele
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mr Michele Neylon
>>
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>> *From: *John Bambenek <jcb at bambenekconsulting.com
>> <mailto:jcb at bambenekconsulting.com>>
>> *Date: *Thursday 11 October 2018 at 14:57
>> *To: *Michele Neylon <michele at blacknight.com
>> <mailto:michele at blacknight.com>>
>> *Cc: *Dotzero <dotzero at gmail.com <mailto:dotzero at gmail.com>>, RDS PDP
>> WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next Gen RDS - Update from
>> Leadership Team
>>
>> “You can convince some insider to carry your concern while they
>> deliberate in private.”
>>
>> That is exactly my point. You’ve excluded outsiders.
>>
>> --
>>
>> John Bambenek
>>
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 04:55, Michele Neylon - Blacknight
>> <michele at blacknight.com <mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:
>>
>> John
>>
>> That isn’t true. Every SO and AC within ICANN has representation.
>> You and anyone else can channel your concerns via your respective
>> constituency, stakeholder group or AC.
>>
>> Also as is normal with any GNSO Working Group the interim report
>> and final report will be open for public comment.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Michele
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mr Michele Neylon
>>
>> Blacknight Solutions
>>
>> Hosting, Colocation & Domains
>>
>> https://www.blacknight.com/
>>
>> https://blacknight.blog/
>>
>> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072
>>
>> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
>>
>> Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ <https://michele.blog/>
>>
>> Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ <https://ceo.hosting/>
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business
>> Park,Sleaty
>>
>> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
>>
>> *From: *gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of John
>> Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>> *Reply-To: *John Bambenek <jcb at bambenekconsulting.com
>> <mailto:jcb at bambenekconsulting.com>>
>> *Date: *Wednesday 10 October 2018 at 23:50
>> *To: *Dotzero <dotzero at gmail.com <mailto:dotzero at gmail.com>>
>> *Cc: *RDS PDP WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next Gen RDS - Update from
>> Leadership Team
>>
>> I did take notice that the new EPDP specifically excludes all
>> outsiders thus ensuring that anyone who actually uses whois will
>> not be represented.
>>
>> --
>>
>> John Bambenek
>>
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 17:28, Dotzero <dotzero at gmail.com
>> <mailto:dotzero at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> The proposed termination document reflects the reality of
>> what has occurred. I'd like to thank everyone else for their
>> efforts. I know that we had some disagreements and the
>> process sometimes was painful.
>>
>> Michael Hammer
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:30 AM Anderson, Marc via
>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Fellow Next Gen RDS members,
>>
>> In March of this year the RDS PDP leadership team
>> canceled working group meetings, effectively putting the
>> group on hold. This decision was made because we heard
>> from ICANN org that it was considering instituting a
>> temporary policy that would greatly impact our work. Out
>> of respect for members’ time it didn’t make sense to
>> continue deliberations.
>>
>> Since then, the ICANN board did approve a temporary
>> specification
>> (https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en).
>> Subsequent to that, the GNSO council initiated an
>> expedited PDP on that temporary specification
>> (https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-07-19-en).
>>
>> Given all this, the RDS PDP leadership team feels it
>> doesn’t make sense for the working group to continue and
>> is recommending termination. The GNSO PDP manual allows
>> for termination by the working group and requires a
>> written “Termination Summary” delivered to the GNSO
>> council via the council liaison. The manual provides
>> “changing circumstances” as an example of a reason for
>> termination which this certainly qualifies as.
>>
>> Attached you will find a proposed “Termination Summary”
>> for the RDS PDP working group. The leadership team plans
>> to deliver by 12 October so the GNSO council can have it
>> on their agenda for ICANN 63. Please let the leadership
>> team know if you have questions or feedback.
>>
>> Many thanks for your hard work on this project.
>>
>> Best,
>> RDS Leadership team
>>
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