[gnso-rpm-wg] 99%+ reduction in sunrise utilization rate per TLD supports EFF call for elimination of sunrise

Cyntia King cking at modernip.com
Fri Aug 11 21:48:05 UTC 2017

Hi George,


TM owners do get a place at the front of the line - because the’ve paid for it.

TM owners have invested time & money to create & register a mark.  They did it in anticipation of profits….. Just like nTLD Registry owners.


And those people “at the back of the bus” are not being excluded from anything.  Any one of them can go to the front of the line if they also spend the time, money & effort to register their own TM.



Cyntia King

CEO & Founder

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Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] 99%+ reduction in sunrise utilization rate per TLD supports EFF call for elimination of sunrise


Hi Cyntia,


It's nice to see greater participation on the mailing list from knowledgeable members like yourself!


On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Cyntia King < <mailto:cking at modernip.com> cking at modernip.com> wrote:

> I do appreciate your admission that Sunrise is beneficial to TM owners.


No one was denying that. If someone pushed a pregnant woman out of her seat on a bus, and took the seat for themselves, that person would also benefit from that obnoxious behaviour. That's the nature of the "benefit" to the TM owners, pushing aside someone else because they believe they have a "better right" to that seat. It's an action with a private benefit that imposes a cost upon others.


> We’re talking about nTLDs opened by those seeking to profit from a new business.  The cost of Sunrise is a business expense paid in the hope of making a large financial return.


I think you're not fully appreciating where the "costs" of a sunrise are being borne. It's not just registry operators (and they might even be beneficiaries --- some claim they'd offer them, even if they weren't mandated, presumably setting a price so that they'd profit from sunrises more than if they relied upon landrushes alone). The costs are also borne by the folks who are being relegated to "the back of the bus", being discriminated against and having a lower priority for their registration attempts.




George Kirikos


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