[gnso-rpm-wg] A Proposal for Smarter Non-Exact Matches
Volker Greimann
vgreimann at key-systems.net
Fri Jun 2 08:50:37 UTC 2017
Dear Brian,
so essentially the chilling effects of the claims notice would persist
for such registration requests. I would propose that such strings would
only be protected by notifications, without any interruptions in the
registration path.
Best,
Volker
Am 01.06.2017 um 22:19 schrieb Winterfeldt, Brian J.:
>
> Dear all:
>
> The examples we cited have the potential to be used for
> cybersquatting, since they constitute either identical or non-exact
> matches, and accordingly are worth consideration for inclusion in any
> proposal for smarter non-exact matches.
>
> No one made any judgment as to whether the specific examples cited
> actually constitute legitimate use versus cybersquatting, although we
> note that at least one was taken directly from a successful UDRP
> complaint.
>
> Further, expanding Claims in this fashion does not impact a
> prospective registrants ability to register the name, if he/she so
> chooses. It would merely expand the applicable Claims notices
> generated, and if the registration is completed, would provide notice
> of registered name to the relevant mark owner(s).
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian
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> *Brian J. Winterfeldt*
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> [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian F. Cimbolic
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:08 AM
> *To:* Volker Greimann; gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] A Proposal for Smarter Non-Exact Matches
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> Agreed, Volker. Brian W – were you suggesting that the two categories
> of additional inexact “matches” be included in the TMCH in addition to
> the categories Greg provided? On the second category (Related Brand
> Names) how would that play out in practice? Would we include every
> possible permutation of existing marks already contained in the TMCH?
> That would be quite the expansion of the TMCH. Would it just for
> somehow related fields/services and if so, who would make the
> determination for “related” marks?
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> Thanks,
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> Brian
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> [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Volker Greimann
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> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] A Proposal for Smarter Non-Exact Matches
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> Hi Brian,
>
> why should such "telescoped terms" be protected at all? To take but
> two of your examples:
>
> sie.men - Siemen is a Dutch name. Sie also means "You" formally in
> German.
>
> NES.cafe - So if I wanted to open a retro-style gaming cafe for the
> Nintendo Entertainment System, that would trigger your proposed
> protections?
>
> It seems to be assumed that if a string matches or is similar to a
> trademarked term, its registration equates to cybersquatting, but that
> is not the case. Such protections are overreaching and infringing on
> the ability of legitimate users of such strings.
>
> A trademark is only violated if the domain is used in a violating way
> or if the intent of the registration is to deprive or to extort from
> the trademark holder. ANY other use of the term is likely to be
> legitimate and should not in any way be made more difficult than any
> other domain registration.
>
> Best,
>
> Volker
>
> Am 31.05.2017 um 20:28 schrieb Winterfeldt, Brian J.:
>
> Dear all:
>
> In response to a comment made on our call today suggesting that
> the attached, well drafted, proposal is a “comprehensive”
> representation of cybersquatting through non-exact matches, we
> offer a few additional examples:
>
> 1. Telescoped Terms: These variations leverage TLD extensions as
> part of an identical or non-exact match trademark. For
> example, COCA-CO.LA, SIE.MEN and NES.CAFE.
>
> 2. Related Brand Names: These variations either improperly
> attempt to use trademarks in a generic sense, or create
> consumer confusion concerning the relationship between two or
> more otherwise unrelated trademarks. For example,
> GOOGLELINKEDIN.COM <http://GOOGLELINKEDIN.COM>.
>
> We are no longer surprised by the new and inventive ways
> cybersquatters develop each day to create consumer confusion
> online, and would strongly caution against any characterization as
> truly comprehensive.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian
>
> *Brian J. Winterfeldt*
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> Co-Head of Global Brand Management and Internet Practice
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> [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shatan
> *Sent:* Monday, May 29, 2017 10:12 PM
> *To:* gnso-rpm-wg
> *Subject:* [gnso-rpm-wg] A Proposal for Smarter Non-Exact Matches
>
> All,
>
> As I've mentioned earlier, I think that a proposal to use
> non-exact matches other than "mark contained" matches ("dumb
> matches") makes sense to pursue. Various types of matches have
> been discussed; however, there has been no actual proposal for
> "smarter" matches that can be used by the group.
>
> The attached proposal seek to fill that gap. It is more in the
> nature of an addendum to the initial proposal on non-exact
> matches. However, it does provide a more formal proposal on the
> types of non-exact matches to be considered. The intent is to
> provide a sufficient framework to discuss these types of non-exact
> matches and to add these non-exact matches to the proposal.
>
> I hope that this helpful to the work of the group.
>
> Greg
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