[gnso-rpm-wg] Directly from INTA's website: What the TTAB has to say about sample size

claudio di gangi ipcdigangi at gmail.com
Tue Sep 5 01:55:50 UTC 2017


Unfortunately, that study doesn't distinguish between new bowling alleys
and legacy lanes.


On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 6:26 PM Kurt Pritz <kurt at kjpritz.com> wrote:

> Although silent on confidence intervals and margin of error, here’s an
> example of a statistical study that, due to the great sample size, inspires
> confidence in its conclusions.
>
>
> http://www.theonion.com/article/study-0-people-die-getting-fingers-lodged-bowling--56720
>
>
> (not) Kurt
>
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2017, at 2:13 AM, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
> wrote:
>
> I have no issue with a well-executed study. I do have an issue with a
> badly done one that then goes to present its results as applicable to the
> entire market.
>
> Let us not waste our time with crap data and focus on doing our work well
> instead.
>
> Volker
>
>
> Am 01.09.2017 um 22:33 schrieb icannlists:
>
> I continue to read these statistics lessons from George, Volker, and Paul
> K. with some amusement.  We are definitely in "the lady doth protest too
> much" territory here.
>
> We get it.  You don't like the survey or the information it conveys.  It
> doesn't fit your narrative or help your goals.  But, it's not like our
> resident statistical experts have submitted any surveys of their own -
> scientifically perfect or otherwise - to back up their opinions.  If the
> INTA survey conducted by Nielson, as Paul K. suggests, is worthy of being
> "laughed out of the room" where does that leave the personal opinions of
> those who didn't bother with producing a survey at all?  I suppose that
> would be whatever is worse than being laughed out of a room...
>
> So folks, can we move off the unrequested, unhelpful opinions about
> statistics (which are interestingly not backed up by surveys to validate
> their accuracy which I find ironic) and get on with dealing with the giant
> workload before us?  We can't keep wasting time on this circular stuff.  We
> need to get underway or else risk falling behind SubPro and get the full
> ire of the community directed at us.  Thanks so much!
>
> Best,
> Paul
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org
> <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of George Kirikos
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 5:44 AM
> To: gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Directly from INTA's website: What the TTAB has
> to say about sample size
>
> I'm sure many folks are familiar with the concept of "confirmation bias":
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
>
> Those who want to give weight to the INTA study, despite its statistical
> invalidity, appear to me to be suffering from that confirmation bias, as
> it's a study that happens to confirm or coincide with their prior beliefs.
>
> As a group, we need to *overcome* those biases, and deal with evidence in
> a neutral, objective and scientific manner, lest those biases steer us on
> the wrong course.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
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