[GNSO-RPM-WG] GNSO RPM-Trademark Claims Notice Sub Team -- Proposal for Submission and Apologies

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Wed May 15 13:38:43 UTC 2019 

Maybe this recommendation is better addressed at Staff include to be 
included in the note that the subteam is proposing to send to the future 
IRT?

Best,

Volker

Am 10.05.2019 um 13:13 schrieb Volker Greimann:
>
> It would also be very helpful if the Claims Notices could be generated 
> in advance of the actual registration, say: at the time a pre-order 
> for a domain is received.
>
> To reduce concerns with regard to changes to the database between the 
> pre-order and the actual registration, it could be proposed that 
> another database check is required at the time of registration, but no 
> new notice would be required unless there is a change.
>
> Best,
>
> Volker
>
> Am 09.05.2019 um 19:12 schrieb Corwin, Philip via GNSO-RPM-WG:
>>
>> Paul T:
>>
>> To clarify, are you proposing that Claims Notices should continue to 
>> be generated only in response to prospective registrations of domains 
>> where the name is an exact match for a TMCH-registered mark, but that 
>> the TMCH notification service should be expanded to provide the mark 
>> holder with notice whenever a domain name that includes the exact 
>> match is registered?
>>
>> Thanks, Philip
>>
>> Philip S. Corwin
>>
>> Policy Counsel
>>
>> VeriSign, Inc.
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> *From:* GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of 
>> *Paul Tattersfield
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 09, 2019 12:27 PM
>> *To:* BECKHAM, Brian <brian.beckham at wipo.int>
>> *Cc:* gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] GNSO RPM-Trademark Claims 
>> Notice Sub Team -- Proposal for Submission and Apologies
>>
>> Thanks for the link Brian, my question to Michael was really to see 
>> if the the issues for non-match domains could be met with jsut an 
>> email to the TM holder rather than a notice to every domain 
>> appliclicant with a TM substring in it.
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 5:17 PM BECKHAM, Brian <brian.beckham at wipo.int 
>> <mailto:brian.beckham at wipo.int>> wrote:
>>
>>     Paul, and Paul,
>>
>>     This is already provided by the TMCH:
>>
>>     https://www.trademark-clearinghouse.com/content/ongoing-notifications
>>
>>     Brian
>>
>>     *From:* GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>     <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org>> *On Behalf Of *Paul Keating
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, May 9, 2019 12:47 PM
>>     *To:* Paul Tattersfield <gpmgroup at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:gpmgroup at gmail.com>>
>>     *Cc:* gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] GNSO RPM-Trademark Claims Notice Sub
>>     Team -- Proposal for Submission and Apologies
>>
>>     Excellent idea Paul!
>>
>>     This is a service that the TMCH could easily implement. It would
>>     then allow the trademark holder to deal with the issue in a
>>     responsible manner instead of having a knee-jerk and chilling
>>     email sent to the registrant.
>>
>>     Paul. Keating
>>
>>     *From: *Paul Tattersfield <gpmgroup at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:gpmgroup at gmail.com>>
>>     *Date: *Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:48 AM
>>     *To: *Paul Keating <Paul at law.es <mailto:Paul at law.es>>
>>     *Cc: *"Michael Graham (ELCA)" <migraham at expediagroup.com
>>     <mailto:migraham at expediagroup.com>>, Julie Hedlund
>>     <julie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>,
>>     "gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>"
>>     <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>>
>>     *Subject: *Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] GNSO RPM-Trademark Claims Notice Sub
>>     Team -- Proposal for Submission and Apologies
>>
>>     Hi Michael,
>>
>>     Couple of quick questions
>>
>>
>>     Wouldn't single letter marks generate a lot of notices especially
>>     an 'a' or 'e' ?
>>
>>     Would it be possible to just send a notfication email to the mark
>>     holder so they could remain informed of new registrations and be
>>     able to montior the new domains and thereby avoid the chilling
>>     effect of lots of TMCH notices to gwnuine registrants?
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>
>>     Paul.
>>
>>     On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 5:14 PM Paul Keating <Paul at law.es
>>     <mailto:Paul at law.es>> wrote:
>>
>>         With all respect to Michael, I do not believe this proposal
>>         should be accepted at this time.
>>
>>         Questions 7 and 8 remain unanswered.  These are important
>>         threshold questions that the proponent should complete prior
>>         to submission.  Otherwise the work group is bogged down
>>         considering or perhaps even assisting in the development of
>>         basic rationale for the proposal.  This should be undertaken
>>         by the proponent.
>>
>>         Thus, here we have a proposal to significantly expand the
>>         scope of notification.  It would, for example, trigger a
>>         notice for Apple Computers if I wanted to register Pineapple.
>>         xyz or a trademark holder for “THE” if I wanted to register
>>         Theater.club or for Nike if I wanted to register Airplane.xyz
>>
>>         The proposal provides no evidence that would support the
>>         proposal (Question 7).
>>
>>         Nor does it reference any data reviewed by the Sub Team that
>>         show any need to address the issue (Question 8).
>>
>>         With a properly completed questionnaire this may become a
>>         legitimate request but it currently does not meet the
>>         requirements IMHO.
>>
>>         Paul Keating
>>
>>         *From: *GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>         <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of "Michael
>>         Graham (ELCA) via GNSO-RPM-WG" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
>>         <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>>
>>         *Reply-To: *"Michael Graham (ELCA)"
>>         <migraham at expediagroup.com <mailto:migraham at expediagroup.com>>
>>         *Date: *Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 5:40 PM
>>         *To: *Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org
>>         <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>, "gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
>>         <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
>>         <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>>
>>         *Subject: *[GNSO-RPM-WG] GNSO RPM-Trademark Claims Notice Sub
>>         Team -- Proposal for Submission and Apologies
>>
>>         Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the call today
>>         due to pressing business matters.  Because the schedule calls
>>         for discussion of answers and proposals regarding Question 4
>>         regarding whether the Exact Match standard for sending Claims
>>         Notices should be extended, and I wish to resubmit my “Exact
>>         Match Plus” proposal for either the Sub Team’s approval or
>>         approval for placing before the community for Public Comment,
>>         I am attaching my proposal – which I have revised to the form
>>         for submission of proposals.  I have not completed the
>>         references to Evidence, and had hoped to do so in part today
>>         during our call.  I shall, however, complete this if granted
>>         time to do so before our next call.
>>
>>         Thank you all for your consideration and indulgence,
>>
>>         Michael R.
>>
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